Luke Caverns

That's contested and inconclusive. In the literature. In the literature. So I think there's, I'd like to see us go back to a lot of these sites. and revisit them. Now that 30,000 might not be a crazy number, I'd like to go back to some of those crazy sites and have somebody re-dig them. This is a perennial problem with archaeology, too.

It's really not science because in many cases we can't replicate the study. You excavate something, you destroy it. Can another scientist independently go in there and dig up the same thing? No. You dug it up. And so, you know, I've been on many a dig where we've intentionally said, let's only dig part of this site.

It's really not science because in many cases we can't replicate the study. You excavate something, you destroy it. Can another scientist independently go in there and dig up the same thing? No. You dug it up. And so, you know, I've been on many a dig where we've intentionally said, let's only dig part of this site.

It's really not science because in many cases we can't replicate the study. You excavate something, you destroy it. Can another scientist independently go in there and dig up the same thing? No. You dug it up. And so, you know, I've been on many a dig where we've intentionally said, let's only dig part of this site.

Let's leave the other part of the site for future generations in that kind of effort. But in some cases, like in the case of a cave or something, maybe there's just one part of the cave that's inhabited. If you dug it all up, that's all that the world gets to know about that for the rest of time. And the person who dug its interpretation says, remains the one.

Let's leave the other part of the site for future generations in that kind of effort. But in some cases, like in the case of a cave or something, maybe there's just one part of the cave that's inhabited. If you dug it all up, that's all that the world gets to know about that for the rest of time. And the person who dug its interpretation says, remains the one.

Let's leave the other part of the site for future generations in that kind of effort. But in some cases, like in the case of a cave or something, maybe there's just one part of the cave that's inhabited. If you dug it all up, that's all that the world gets to know about that for the rest of time. And the person who dug its interpretation says, remains the one.

Yeah, I think a perfect example of only being able to carry out a dig or an excavation one time is the temple at Chavin. Chavin de Jontar. Essentially, Chavin de Jontar is where the people of the Corral Supe culture, they get tired of trying to rebuild their... This is on the west coast of Peru. It's like a desert beach.

Yeah, I think a perfect example of only being able to carry out a dig or an excavation one time is the temple at Chavin. Chavin de Jontar. Essentially, Chavin de Jontar is where the people of the Corral Supe culture, they get tired of trying to rebuild their... This is on the west coast of Peru. It's like a desert beach.

Yeah, I think a perfect example of only being able to carry out a dig or an excavation one time is the temple at Chavin. Chavin de Jontar. Essentially, Chavin de Jontar is where the people of the Corral Supe culture, they get tired of trying to rebuild their... This is on the west coast of Peru. It's like a desert beach.

And they're building, I mean, arguably the very first pyramids on the entire planet, you know, before the official date. Right on the beach? Yeah, pretty close to the coastline.

And they're building, I mean, arguably the very first pyramids on the entire planet, you know, before the official date. Right on the beach? Yeah, pretty close to the coastline.

And they're building, I mean, arguably the very first pyramids on the entire planet, you know, before the official date. Right on the beach? Yeah, pretty close to the coastline.

There's one on the beach, and then they go back in a river valley back, like, another 15 miles.

There's one on the beach, and then they go back in a river valley back, like, another 15 miles.

There's one on the beach, and then they go back in a river valley back, like, another 15 miles.

Yeah, yeah. And they're doing that to escape these storms called El Ninos and La Ninas and just constantly hitting this civilization over and over and over again. Anyways, they get tired of rebuilding their city so many times they go, we got to get out of here. So they go up into the Andes. And this is where Andean civilization, we think, becomes influenced by the Amazon.

Yeah, yeah. And they're doing that to escape these storms called El Ninos and La Ninas and just constantly hitting this civilization over and over and over again. Anyways, they get tired of rebuilding their city so many times they go, we got to get out of here. So they go up into the Andes. And this is where Andean civilization, we think, becomes influenced by the Amazon.

Yeah, yeah. And they're doing that to escape these storms called El Ninos and La Ninas and just constantly hitting this civilization over and over and over again. Anyways, they get tired of rebuilding their city so many times they go, we got to get out of here. So they go up into the Andes. And this is where Andean civilization, we think, becomes influenced by the Amazon.

And I think maybe the first time we start seeing architecture with four walls and big interiors that you can walk into. I say big, but for ancient people, big interiors that you can walk into, huge stones, and they're being influenced by the Amazon. And I think this is where Andean civilization gets their pottery, right?