Luke Caverns

And so they give us vague, wide numbers about these things. This happened somewhere between 1 and 10 million years ago or something. So we'd really need, you know, like if any of these things could ever show a half obliterated campsite or something like that, that would be a smoking gun. But to this date, I don't think we have that.

Like there's a Hancock talks about that impact crater that's right in front of the serpent mound.

Like there's a Hancock talks about that impact crater that's right in front of the serpent mound.

Like there's a Hancock talks about that impact crater that's right in front of the serpent mound.

In Ohio. That big, beautiful serpent mound. His, you know, first apocalypse, ancient apocalypse thing. They wouldn't let him in the site. It was a big hubbub. He's right that the entire area is a big crater. And I think he may even be right that the people who made the serpent mound recognized it as a crater. or some kind of unique landscape.

In Ohio. That big, beautiful serpent mound. His, you know, first apocalypse, ancient apocalypse thing. They wouldn't let him in the site. It was a big hubbub. He's right that the entire area is a big crater. And I think he may even be right that the people who made the serpent mound recognized it as a crater. or some kind of unique landscape.

In Ohio. That big, beautiful serpent mound. His, you know, first apocalypse, ancient apocalypse thing. They wouldn't let him in the site. It was a big hubbub. He's right that the entire area is a big crater. And I think he may even be right that the people who made the serpent mound recognized it as a crater. or some kind of unique landscape.

But to argue that the two are concurrent in time, we just don't have the data yet. Like if the head of the snake was blown off by the crater, then boom, smoking gun. But there's nothing like that. So I think it's the time depth between these, geology says for sure, comet impacts, And the time of humans. That's the wiggle room that neither side really has a viable answer to. Right, right.

But to argue that the two are concurrent in time, we just don't have the data yet. Like if the head of the snake was blown off by the crater, then boom, smoking gun. But there's nothing like that. So I think it's the time depth between these, geology says for sure, comet impacts, And the time of humans. That's the wiggle room that neither side really has a viable answer to. Right, right.

But to argue that the two are concurrent in time, we just don't have the data yet. Like if the head of the snake was blown off by the crater, then boom, smoking gun. But there's nothing like that. So I think it's the time depth between these, geology says for sure, comet impacts, And the time of humans. That's the wiggle room that neither side really has a viable answer to. Right, right.

I laugh because my in-laws live here in your same town, and my mother-in-law has said for as long as I've known her that the Indian mounds protect St. Pete. From the weather? The weather never... The hurricanes never come here because the Indian mounds protect us. And you're telling me somebody dug them up.

I laugh because my in-laws live here in your same town, and my mother-in-law has said for as long as I've known her that the Indian mounds protect St. Pete. From the weather? The weather never... The hurricanes never come here because the Indian mounds protect us. And you're telling me somebody dug them up.

I laugh because my in-laws live here in your same town, and my mother-in-law has said for as long as I've known her that the Indian mounds protect St. Pete. From the weather? The weather never... The hurricanes never come here because the Indian mounds protect us. And you're telling me somebody dug them up.

There you go, Diane. Your juju's right. Somebody ruined it. Yeah. And then you got Milton or Helene or whatever you got. Helene and we got Milton.

There you go, Diane. Your juju's right. Somebody ruined it. Yeah. And then you got Milton or Helene or whatever you got. Helene and we got Milton.

There you go, Diane. Your juju's right. Somebody ruined it. Yeah. And then you got Milton or Helene or whatever you got. Helene and we got Milton.

There was a moment where people were suggesting to me that I should throw my hat in the ring, and I was like, oh, no, hell no. I don't want to do anything like that. Oh, okay. I don't want to argue about these things. I love talking about it like now, but God, I'm not going to debate anybody about shit I may or may not know. Hmm. I love having the conversation.

There was a moment where people were suggesting to me that I should throw my hat in the ring, and I was like, oh, no, hell no. I don't want to do anything like that. Oh, okay. I don't want to argue about these things. I love talking about it like now, but God, I'm not going to debate anybody about shit I may or may not know. Hmm. I love having the conversation.

There was a moment where people were suggesting to me that I should throw my hat in the ring, and I was like, oh, no, hell no. I don't want to do anything like that. Oh, okay. I don't want to argue about these things. I love talking about it like now, but God, I'm not going to debate anybody about shit I may or may not know. Hmm. I love having the conversation.

I regret all the vitriol that's happened. It's such a wonderful thing that podcasts like this have created a new and wonderful audience for archaeology, and it sucks that it's turned into this ugly argument where everybody points fingers at each other and calls each other stupid. That's weird. And Graham is, of course, right in the intersection of that whole thing.