Luke Caverns
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Starving, you know, the vision quests that were done by the Indians of the plains, those didn't involve drugs at all. That was exhaustion, starvation, and it would trigger it. For the Maya, what they would do is they would, again, starve, keep themselves in darkness, kind of sensory deprivation. And then they cut themselves. And that sudden loss of blood is what would trigger the vision.
So a really bad cut when you are starved and exhausted is the trigger point. The Native Americans in the plains, they kind of ran around. They didn't know when it was going to happen to them. They had hit their threshold.
So a really bad cut when you are starved and exhausted is the trigger point. The Native Americans in the plains, they kind of ran around. They didn't know when it was going to happen to them. They had hit their threshold.
So a really bad cut when you are starved and exhausted is the trigger point. The Native Americans in the plains, they kind of ran around. They didn't know when it was going to happen to them. They had hit their threshold.
But the Maya kind of honed it where they'd get themselves prepped, and then a quick and intense blood loss would trigger the vision.
But the Maya kind of honed it where they'd get themselves prepped, and then a quick and intense blood loss would trigger the vision.
But the Maya kind of honed it where they'd get themselves prepped, and then a quick and intense blood loss would trigger the vision.
Hallucinogens, in a way, are poisoning us. The hallucinations are our body fighting off what it thinks is something trying to kill it.
Hallucinogens, in a way, are poisoning us. The hallucinations are our body fighting off what it thinks is something trying to kill it.
Hallucinogens, in a way, are poisoning us. The hallucinations are our body fighting off what it thinks is something trying to kill it.
I mean this was a king thing. The kings would cut their penises and then dance around with paper tied to it, and the blood would splatter everywhere. People would see that. Then they'd put that paper in a bowl and burn it. And that blood and the smoke that it created was the conduit between this world and the other world. And through the smoke, their ancestors would come down and talk to them.
I mean this was a king thing. The kings would cut their penises and then dance around with paper tied to it, and the blood would splatter everywhere. People would see that. Then they'd put that paper in a bowl and burn it. And that blood and the smoke that it created was the conduit between this world and the other world. And through the smoke, their ancestors would come down and talk to them.
I mean this was a king thing. The kings would cut their penises and then dance around with paper tied to it, and the blood would splatter everywhere. People would see that. Then they'd put that paper in a bowl and burn it. And that blood and the smoke that it created was the conduit between this world and the other world. And through the smoke, their ancestors would come down and talk to them.
I find it fascinating that it was specifically their blood. And we talk about bloodlines. Ancestry can take my DNA and connect my kids to it. It's the fluids out of my body that actually show our proof of connection. It's funny that they specifically burned their own blood. to contact only their own ancestor. They couldn't contact anybody by burning their blood. It was somebody of their bloodline.
I find it fascinating that it was specifically their blood. And we talk about bloodlines. Ancestry can take my DNA and connect my kids to it. It's the fluids out of my body that actually show our proof of connection. It's funny that they specifically burned their own blood. to contact only their own ancestor. They couldn't contact anybody by burning their blood. It was somebody of their bloodline.
I find it fascinating that it was specifically their blood. And we talk about bloodlines. Ancestry can take my DNA and connect my kids to it. It's the fluids out of my body that actually show our proof of connection. It's funny that they specifically burned their own blood. to contact only their own ancestor. They couldn't contact anybody by burning their blood. It was somebody of their bloodline.
There are photos, not photos, but carvings that show them doing it. Yashilan, they're a little... Can you find a carving online of this? Yashilan Stila. That ought to do it. Yeah.
There are photos, not photos, but carvings that show them doing it. Yashilan, they're a little... Can you find a carving online of this? Yashilan Stila. That ought to do it. Yeah.
There are photos, not photos, but carvings that show them doing it. Yashilan, they're a little... Can you find a carving online of this? Yashilan Stila. That ought to do it. Yeah.
Y-A-X-C-H-I-L-A-N. I bet a lot of them probably died on accident by doing this. Probably. Though they did have β there was a neat ethnographic or ethnobotanical research that showed that even today β The Maya know a number of plants that are blood coagulators. Oh, really? So they can quickly stop the blood.