Luke Caverns
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5 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard 27 May
Luke Caverns’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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We don't even know the name of Teotihuacan. We don't know the name of the people. We don't know the name of the city. We know their relationship with other people around them, like the Maya were at war with Teotihuacan, but the civilization had already fallen. So when the Aztecs arrived, the Olmecs had been gone for, Almost 2,000 years at least. The Olmecs had already been gone.
Teotihuacan had been gone for 1,000 years. The Maya had already collapsed. The Maya collapsed long before the Spanish got there. And so, you know, it's just, again, like the Americas are just so mysterious and there's so much to know there.
So kind of getting back to what I was saying is when I talk about the mysteries of the Americas, I immediately get accosted by other of my quote-unquote colleagues. I don't have any colleagues in the academic realm, but other academics who will immediately jump in my comment section on X or whatever, and they'll reprimand me, and they'll be like, oh, so back to the pseudo-archaeology, is it?
And I'm like, so I can't talk about anything that's fascinating. I need to talk about things that are boring so you don't get upset with me. And now it's just like the popular audience has completely had enough of it. And I'll have like 15 people jump in and defend me. It's fun to watch. Yeah. And they'll be like, OK, this is a perfect representation of what you guys do. I step just slightly out.
of this line or what you think is appropriate for me and I'm talking about things that are interesting that inspire people to be interested in the ancient world to go see these sites like these people they don't like you they don't like the people that you have on but how many people do you think you've sent to Egypt You had a significant impact.
This show had a significant impact on me being interested in the ancient world. And I have traveled all over the world because largely some of this show inspired me to do that. And I'm probably one of the few people that found you because of Graham Hancock. Yeah, rather than the other way around. And, and so, you know, I've traveled all over the world.
And then what I have done is inspired other people to travel around the world. So, you know, how many of these archaeologists that are keyboard warriors hiding, hiding behind, you know, a desk or whatever, how many of these people are inspiring people to travel around the world?
And, you know, it's just, it's just, again, we're about to reach this like archaeological Wild West where I don't really know what's going to happen in the future. It's,
Yeah, yeah. And the institutions are feeling the pressure of independent media, you know, like going back to the Go Beckley Tepe tree situation. It'll be really interesting to see, you know, like Jimmy's in an interesting position where maybe there's a way that, like,
The relationship between independent people and the popular, enthusiastic audience and the archaeological departments in Turkey can have a better relationship because of these things in the future.
From what I can see in the limited amount that I see – and this is the hard part is sort of we get a skewed view into the archaeological world or the academic world. And sometimes I don't even know what's what because –
because the archaeologists that make their opinions known are usually the ones with really bad opinions you know and and then all the other people that are pretty agreeable they just kinda sit on the sideline right and it's hard to know like what are most people What are most of these future archaeologists – where are they thinking? Where's their mind at?
And some of the young people I talk to, they are fascinated by Graham Hancock. They may not agree with – I guess in a way I could say is they may love the first nine episodes of Ancient Apocalypse. But in the 10th episode where Graham gives the end of his thesis, they'll be like, OK, I see the evidence differently, but this is really fascinating.
And some of the mysteries you pointed out along the way are valid. Yeah. The idea of the artifact record of the tools that we have that the Egyptians in the old kingdom were using does not fit the megalithic architecture that they then produced. Okay, what's the answer to this mystery? Could it have been that we're missing a chapter?
uh of of history that's before that where a different civilization did it or is there uh for some reason there's an artifact record that's lost to us today and so you have you know guys like graham who will come in and pause it well there could have been a lost civilization that that did this and then an archaeologist the young archaeologist may disagree with the lost civilization but they say but graham you really pointed out the fact and made it well known that
You know, the artifact record that we have of how they built the pyramids, that's a big mystery. And how they built the pyramids, that's a big mystery. This is worth considering. And they like Graham. You know, so a lot of young archaeologists, at least I say a lot, it's really just the ones I talk to in my spare time that are my age. They're fascinated by these ideas.
And my hope is maybe these people become leaders someday. But at the same time, like, I don't know, to get ahead in that world, man, you got to be a dog.
Zahi is a really good example of what I think goes on in archaeology in Egypt. You know, you have a lot of different missions from different countries working in Egypt. You have like a German mission. You have the American mission, you know, different people working at different sites. And I can't speak to every country that's working there.
You have Australian missions that are working in Egypt, digging at certain sites. But yeah. But, you know, when I watch Zahi, I'm like, yeah, this is the what you're seeing. This is the attitude that has been at the spear point of Egyptology for the last lifetime. And and you can just imagine what goes on. Like, I mean, think about being on a dig site with him.
Think about working in his industry underneath him. Think about all the people that were a part of the discoveries that he made that feel so disrespected and so overlooked. You know, not once during that podcast did he ever acknowledge all the hardworking archaeologists that were actually there in the dirt doing all this hard work. He just took all this limelight.
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