Luke Caverns

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1,858 appearances 5 recordings 5 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 27 May

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We did. We looked at his map, and I told him that when you arrived there, this was, you got the job because you had done the, you had found Belize, right? Right. And, or I'm sorry, you had found Moshnah. Moshnah. He didn't find Belize. We knew where Belize was. So he had got the job because he had discovered Mashnah.
Wow. And so you can take it from there.
But then I mapped about 1,200. Sure. And it's not the whole city either. There's things, there's some dispersed things on the hills above it, and there's a bunch more stuff to the west. And somebody just showed me, they just finally made a LIDAR of it. And about a half a kilometer to... The east of where I stopped mapping is a really big pyramid.
You can see it poking out clear as day in this new LIDAR. And I'm pissed I missed that one. I mean, little buildings is one thing. Little neighborhoods, okay, you know, I'm doing my best. But I missed a whole dang pyramid. How long did that take you to map out all that? Better part of three years. It was crazy. And you lived down there the whole time?
Well, I'd come back for like four months to write up the report and give it to all of the authorities that would give me more money so I could go back down there.
That's one version of it. Okay. It's definitely my... The black parts are my map. The other parts are pretty more LiDAR, color-coded, so you can see what's high and what's low.
This is classic period Maya. These guys are kind of like the... the intellectuals of the Maya world, that the engineering here, the architecture is the best, their hieroglyphs are beautifully written, and the content is very complex.
There's all sorts of astronomy tied into mythology, like the guy who is buried in the big pyramid in the center there, the Temple of the Inscriptions, the one that that square is over. He does this magnificent thing where he says he's better than the next lineage bloodline person. He's vaguely related to the people that were the kings before him.
They got killed by an attack from Calakmul, another competing city. But he says – I'm better than that. I'm the reborn avatar of the first of our triad of patron deities for the city. And he ties himself back to a place where Venus was rising in the exact same constellation. And the distance is like 3,000 years.
And he mathematically or astronomically dates back what the birth of that guy that we just call God-1 is. And Palenque and Pakalwar, he ties himself to the same rise of Venus and says, I am him reborn, and here's the astronomical proof, which is pretty dang complex for people that we think are somehow lesser than the other great civilizations.
You know, it really is confusing. I've been trying to figure it out for 30 years, and there are still aspects of the Maya calendar which confuse me.
Well, I'd use the word elegant in that regard, that they have a positional system of numeration like we do, where we have the ones, the tens, the hundreds, the thousands, ten thousands, so on. They do it by 20s, but they only have three symbols. They have a bar, they have a dot, and they have a symbol for zero, which changes from a shell to a flower. They can alternate. But we have 10 symbols.
We have one through nine and then zero. And we can write any number as big as we want approaching affinity. They can do the same thing, but it's really only three symbols. So in that regard, it's more elegant. Yeah, but it's also – People get pissed off when I say that their system was more sophisticated than ours. So let's go with elegant.
Oh, that's a very long answer. We've got plenty of time. No, we can see that their system begins with a foundation. First, they have a counting system, which they decide is 20, not 10. That's one proof that they're not being overly influenced by the old world. I mean, why would they come up with a completely different base system?
Um, from there they can count things and they start using it to count primarily the days. I mean, we know they're counting all sorts of things probably in the market as well, but we see them counting the days and then they decide they want to make a year. They want to make a, a cycle. that they can talk about one year to the next, but they don't pick the solar cycle at first.
They pick a number 260. That's their sacred calendar. It's called the Sol King or the Chol Ki, depending on whose language you're talking in. All of Mesoamerica does it, not just the Maya. It begins with the Maya or the Olmec, and then it goes everywhere in Mesoamerica until contact. So it's the most important one.
But it's 260 days, no months, no weeks, just a combination of 20 symbols and 13 numbers. 20 times 13 is 260. why that number why 260. best we can reckon and what the maya themselves today continue to say is that it's the gestation period of human it's nine months so if you're impregnated on one a how chances are your baby will come out on the next one a how
And I think it's beautiful that instead of – so many other cultures look to the heavens to make time. But they decided to look inside themselves. Like what is a cycle that is uniquely just us? We look around the world. The sun is 365 days. You know, animals give birth on different time scales. We have this long, strange nine-month pregnancy. So they looked inside themselves.
And from there, they built out... The 365-day calendar. I think once they started a farm, that became a lot more important, knowing the solar cycle, when to plant, when to harvest. So those two numbers, a 365-day solar calendar and then their original 260-day calendar, when they put those two together like cogs spinning into each other, you're only going to hit the same day every 52 years.
so for 52 years you'll have a unique day it'll have one the first part of it will be its 260 day calendar name the second part will be the 365 calendar name but because the two cogs which they never made or envisioned that's for western minds to try to envision it the two cycles only meet up again at the same number every 52 years that's how we get 52 years
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