Luke Caverns

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And so in that way, archaeology is kind of like a technique, right? You have to do it properly the first time because you can't repeat that, if that makes sense. Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense.
It's a good example. To elaborate on what Luke said, underneath Chavin de Quantar were these crazy labyrinths, and they would take twists and turns and have all sorts of little closets along the way, but at the termination of these five or six different labyrinths,
were piles of different kinds of artifacts there were some that have just animal bones there were some that just had pottery there were some that just had like stone sculptures and uh the idea that's been passed down since that excavation is that this was a pilgrimage site and people were taking specific things for for specific purposes
And then the owners of the temple were stashing these things in kind of categories in each one of the labyrinths. But during those initial excavations, they cleared all that stuff out. They didn't really take a lot of pictures or drawings. So there's at least – I have never seen any. And so now we have this literature that describes this very important aspect of this early temple.
that argues a narrative that it's a pilgrimage site, which I believe, but the truth is no archaeologist after that was ever able to assess those collections of artifacts independently.
Well, let me start by saying both you guys know a hell of a lot more about Egypt than I do. I'm an American archaeologist. I know what I watch on TV.
So the Younger Dryas hypothesis, you know, it's been around for a while. And... I have not discussed it with many colleagues at all. I see the fights on the internet over it. And I see, you know, the root of discovering its exact nature, I think, falls into... You know, geoarchaeology or, you know, geomorphology. I'm not a geologist.
I don't really – there's a point in which I read these papers and it crests my ability to evaluate whether that's just a bunch of smart talk or whether it actually makes sense. But – Like, archaeologists have been talking about it before this whole did it destroy an entire ancient civilization and wipe it out conversation. My memory is that we thought that there was –
The Younger Dryas has now been connected to this comet in a way that it wasn't originally. It was seen as a geological episode. And if memory serves, there was a hypothesis that as the Ice Age was slowly warming up, That ice in a huge lake called like Agassiz in Canada melted enough to cause a huge flood of ice that kind of came down out of the rivers and into the Atlantic.
And that flood of ice quickly lowered the temperature of the Atlantic and raised its sea level so that it caused flooding on the coasts and radically changed the temperature colder again for, I don't know, a couple hundred years or something. Geology is funny like that. Yeah. But that was what I originally read. And now there's a new idea that it was a comet.
But, you know, I mean, mammoths were all the way over to Europe, though, too. They died out in Europe. They were in Siberia. So that is... That is a point to consider. Yes, Africa's larger herd animals remain. So did Southeast Asia. But the wipeout of the megafauna in the northern climate was fairly at a uniform time. It wasn't just the Americas.
It was also Europe and across to Siberia and into China.
Okay. To Randall's point, a team that's working on this comet research that's – I don't know how these guys afforded it, but they paid so much money to have the entire United States LIDAR mapped. And I'm friends with one of the guys that's on this comet research group, and he was like, you know, by doing this, we also vicariously created the highest quality LIDAR map possible.
of Native American mound sites that's ever been made. Would you like access to it? So I got access to it. Dr. Barnhart's seen it. It's pretty amazing. Wow.
Right here in your state. Luke's been finding all sorts of stuff along the river.
Really? This will be in the future.
so there there are um you know i mean i would imagine that some people know about them but there have to be hundreds and hundreds of mound sites one in particular that that could be you know an entire ancient village um in florida that has never been documented before and they're they're on the slide art map so that's that's probably down the pipe for me in 2025 that i'm going to go document these things in person but
You know, there are, quote unquote, it sounds dramatic, but lost cities still in Florida, still in the U.S., you know, out in the woodlands that, you know, need to be discovered.
Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, they are absolutely full of these big Mississippian cities that we've been...
yeah just ignoring for generations yeah and i called the uh the head of archaeology at uh the uh university of southern florida and uh spoke to her on the phone and showed her just one image of this lidar map and and then it was after that she took me very seriously seriously she goes where'd you get this and is it online uh no it's a it's it's it's like a private software that i'm just lucky enough to have i know a guy though yeah so um
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