Luke Caverns
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5 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard 27 May
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But here's this relatively simple man who has shown without major tools how to do this. And that's not to say we know that that's how it was done by the Olmecs or the Egyptians or whoever.
Wally inspires me just like the wonderful stories of – of folks like Hancock. I mean, he is showing us what's possible. But Wally is different than Hancock. Wally freaking proved it.
And Wally's been doing this for a few decades. Imagine when you have an entire industry of people doing this and trying to further... I love that one. That's crazy. Imagine you have an entire industry of people, highly intelligent people doing this over the course of centuries. How much...
How much you're able to invent and learn how to – He's got one that shows the same angle that the pyramids of Giza are at and how he can make a simple lever system that he can haul five times, ten times his own weight by himself with this particular angle. He can haul it straight up. That's so interesting, man. So, you know, he really there. There he is twisting it.
He's got two pivot points underneath and he is just turning it. And every time he turns it around, it goes half the distance between the two pivot points. This is difficult. But, I mean, this is how you would move a giant stone.
And you're also motivated by, you know, zealous religion. Mm. And also, I think there's a more practical part, too, like creating something huge and magnificent like this. Like, why did they do it?
Well, I think, number one, on the most boring and practical levels, it's a WPA project. You're a big man king. You know, 100,000 people want to follow you. If they don't have something to be engaged in this civilization, then what are they doing there? So these big projects they make together cement cultural identity. But they're also –
On a religious level, they are – yeah, look at him just move that thing so simply.
There are these things. Luke and I were just in Peru and Machu Picchu and Cusco. And there are these big stones that have just two titties on them. And they're in the walls. Why wouldn't they just shave them off? Are they proud of them? Why wouldn't they just close them off? A lot of people say, oh, they're where they would lash ropes so they could move these big stones.
These are those nubs.
But they're always in twos. And I wonder whether they aren't the evidence of Wally's pivot points.
That is a theory that I'm actively trying to figure out. I think it was acids. And there are weird like wipe marks that look like, you know, like somebody cleaned up a spill on the walls. They are weird. There's lots of unexplained evidence. Now that one gets into, you know, how to... How did they fit them so tightly, not move them? But the acids wouldn't help them move them.
But the acids would help them cut it, though, right? Right. Or fit them perfectly.
The conventional theory is they were using hammer stones, and they would just pick up a five-ton stone and go, oh, okay, let's set it down on this one. It's not quite right. Pick it back up. I'm going to peck this place. Okay, now do it again. Oh, no, do it again. That's... Yeah. It's... It would take so much effort.
But, you know, when it comes to effort, a colleague of mine, Bill Fash, once said something that I love. I repeat it on all these things, I think. That he simply said, when you're making something for the gods, it's not supposed to be easy. So I think us Westerners are always looking at something like that and noticing how much work would go into it. Our minds boggled it.
But that would take so much effort. And to our minds, we're always about efficiency. If you're smart, you're efficient. But if you're devout, maybe you do do it the long way. And the harder it was for you, the greater your act of devotion. So I think that's a profound thing to always keep in mind when we have one culture in time. are trying to understand the motivations of ancient people.
Doing something the long and hard way is an act of devotion, not stupidity.
You know, hundreds of years to see it's that kind of thinking that's going to close the National Science Foundation. I don't want to see that happen there. There are senators a couple of years back. I remember because a Maya sites grant was specifically questioned in Congress as to, you know, a congressman was saying National Science Foundation gave fifty thousand dollars to dig up a Maya pyramid.
How does that profit America? How do we make any money on that? Right. Congress should have oversight and not allow that. And we can only allow science that is going to produce a technology that makes us money.
If that was our attitude, we wouldn't learn jack or shit.
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