Luke Caverns

Yeah, I don't know, man. I mean, the procession of the equinoxes, it takes at least, what, 12 to 24, it's either 12 or it's 24,000 years to be able to... If we wanted to investigate an ancient culture that's possible of being able to document this, it'd be worth looking into if the Maya were aware.

Yeah, well, and then check this out. Hipparchus' discovery detailed in his lost work, but referenced by Ptolemy, the pharaoh over Alexandria in the Almagest, 2nd century CE. So this is happening in the city of Alexandria. All this is being studied in Alexandria's library. Marks the earliest confirmed understanding of procession in scientific sense.

Yeah, well, and then check this out. Hipparchus' discovery detailed in his lost work, but referenced by Ptolemy, the pharaoh over Alexandria in the Almagest, 2nd century CE. So this is happening in the city of Alexandria. All this is being studied in Alexandria's library. Marks the earliest confirmed understanding of procession in scientific sense.

Yeah, well, and then check this out. Hipparchus' discovery detailed in his lost work, but referenced by Ptolemy, the pharaoh over Alexandria in the Almagest, 2nd century CE. So this is happening in the city of Alexandria. All this is being studied in Alexandria's library. Marks the earliest confirmed understanding of procession in scientific sense.

Dude, that was lost in the burning of Alexandria's library. Yeah, how crazy is that?

Dude, that was lost in the burning of Alexandria's library. Yeah, how crazy is that?

Dude, that was lost in the burning of Alexandria's library. Yeah, how crazy is that?

You would have to be transfixed. You know something interesting that I was just reminded of is this meandering pattern. It continues in the ancient Mediterranean world, so Greece, Mesopotamia, and Egypt, until Alexandria's library is burned and stops after that. You see it on the monument of Augustus. which dates to about 9 BC, but that's for his death. But Augustus would have seen Alexandria.

You would have to be transfixed. You know something interesting that I was just reminded of is this meandering pattern. It continues in the ancient Mediterranean world, so Greece, Mesopotamia, and Egypt, until Alexandria's library is burned and stops after that. You see it on the monument of Augustus. which dates to about 9 BC, but that's for his death. But Augustus would have seen Alexandria.

You would have to be transfixed. You know something interesting that I was just reminded of is this meandering pattern. It continues in the ancient Mediterranean world, so Greece, Mesopotamia, and Egypt, until Alexandria's library is burned and stops after that. You see it on the monument of Augustus. which dates to about 9 BC, but that's for his death. But Augustus would have seen Alexandria.

He would have been familiar with these motifs. I believe after that in Rome, we don't see this motif anymore of the squared spiral. In Mesoamerica, in Mexico and Central America, This squared spiral motif stops with the burning of the Maya codices from Diego de Landa in like 1574.

He would have been familiar with these motifs. I believe after that in Rome, we don't see this motif anymore of the squared spiral. In Mesoamerica, in Mexico and Central America, This squared spiral motif stops with the burning of the Maya codices from Diego de Landa in like 1574.

He would have been familiar with these motifs. I believe after that in Rome, we don't see this motif anymore of the squared spiral. In Mesoamerica, in Mexico and Central America, This squared spiral motif stops with the burning of the Maya codices from Diego de Landa in like 1574.

He gathered all of the writing in the Maya world together in the city of what is modern-day Merida, and he burned it all up. And it was called multiple pyres. So imagine, let's say a pyre is at least from the floor to the ceiling stacked with codexes. Like have you ever seen the sticky notes that are connected on each side? That's how the Maya books looked. and he burned all that history.

He gathered all of the writing in the Maya world together in the city of what is modern-day Merida, and he burned it all up. And it was called multiple pyres. So imagine, let's say a pyre is at least from the floor to the ceiling stacked with codexes. Like have you ever seen the sticky notes that are connected on each side? That's how the Maya books looked. and he burned all that history.

He gathered all of the writing in the Maya world together in the city of what is modern-day Merida, and he burned it all up. And it was called multiple pyres. So imagine, let's say a pyre is at least from the floor to the ceiling stacked with codexes. Like have you ever seen the sticky notes that are connected on each side? That's how the Maya books looked. and he burned all that history.

Today, we only have three or four that exist, and one of them is controversial as to whether or not it's a forgery. So he destroyed all of the written history of the Mesoamerican world in one fell swoop. And to give you an idea of just how much it was, when the Spaniards arrived in the Aztec world, so the Aztec were standing on the shoulders of giants, being the Maya and all the other cultures.

Today, we only have three or four that exist, and one of them is controversial as to whether or not it's a forgery. So he destroyed all of the written history of the Mesoamerican world in one fell swoop. And to give you an idea of just how much it was, when the Spaniards arrived in the Aztec world, so the Aztec were standing on the shoulders of giants, being the Maya and all the other cultures.

Today, we only have three or four that exist, and one of them is controversial as to whether or not it's a forgery. So he destroyed all of the written history of the Mesoamerican world in one fell swoop. And to give you an idea of just how much it was, when the Spaniards arrived in the Aztec world, so the Aztec were standing on the shoulders of giants, being the Maya and all the other cultures.

The Aztecs were producing... 250,000 pieces of paper a year. It's something like that. It's an incredible amount of written knowledge and all of that knowledge is burned and gone. And so, you know, just again, when archaeologists stand behind their opinions so strongly as to chastise other people for speculating about, oh, well, you know, this could be this.