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Luke Chemies

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
506 total appearances

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MM 313 - Do You Have To Pay Tax On A 'Hobby'?

It is likely.

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It could well be.

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You may.

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MM 313 - Do You Have To Pay Tax On A 'Hobby'?

So the IID website says that you're likely in business if you intend to make a profit.

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MM 313 - Do You Have To Pay Tax On A 'Hobby'?

Does that sound familiar?

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MM 313 - Do You Have To Pay Tax On A 'Hobby'?

When we have an intention in New Zealand with just about anything, if you intend to make a profit, that's an underlying tax rule too.

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that that's then held on what we call revenue account, and therefore there is tax to pay.

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Now, you could argue, well, I brought some Heartland Bank shares.

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I intended to make a profit from them.

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Unfortunately, they've gone down, so I haven't.

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But therefore, if I did make a profit, then I would need to pay tax on that.

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But we don't have a capital gains tax, and most people would say, no, I didn't buy a

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those shares, those Heartland shares to make a profit.

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I brought them to get a dividend.

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Therefore, if I do make a profit from selling them, I'm not paying the tax on it.

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MM 313 - Do You Have To Pay Tax On A 'Hobby'?

And this is similar to a number of the shares that you would have purchased via Sharesies or whatever you use.

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MM 313 - Do You Have To Pay Tax On A 'Hobby'?

And you may have made a capital gain on those and the IRD aren't saying, hey, we saw that your

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caterpillar shares have doubled in value and you sold them, you need to pay up and give us some money.

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MM 313 - Do You Have To Pay Tax On A 'Hobby'?

So the intention in New Zealand, this is a tangent, is often quite important.

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MM 313 - Do You Have To Pay Tax On A 'Hobby'?

Now, where I have a gripe with that rule or go, well, you know what's been cooked over 40 years in this country,