Luke Hodge

Are we sleeping on Freo?

They're second on the ladder and they've got West Coast, Carlton and Essendon in three of the next five.

How good are they?

Yeah, yeah.

And the way they're playing and the way they're winning ugly now is probably a... It's a distinction from what Adelaide are doing.

Adelaide are playing some good footy but unable to win week to week.

I know they beat Carlton, whereas Fremantle seem to be winning ugly, which is important.

Well, Harley reached out through Alex Witherden last year.

So when he was in Brisbane, we were supposed to catch up, but I had my son's grand final on sport and I was supposed to be on team afterwards, but everything got pushed back with all the presentations and I had to cancel on him.

So he has reached out to have a chat.

I am heading over to Perth late May.

So if the diary's aligned, I might be able to sit down with him as a payback.

But he has reached out, but...

I feel his pain.

There's stages where he's showing a lot of maturity with the way he plays football, but then there's obviously that young guy in him who still... He used to push and shove his way around in junior football and get away with it.

Now...

Teams are picking at him as a 20, 21-year-old, which would be frustrating.

And I showed the same frustrations as a kid as he has.

So there's different tactics that he can try to get away.

But it's also there's a little bit on his team as well.