Luke Keary

Now, that by default has taken away premierships from some of the other clubs.

Yep.

But for the greater good of the game, they all accept that that's par for the course.

We all win, if that makes sense.

Even with the P&G, everyone got their money.

And no one's... Everybody's be happy with that.

But if the game...

If the Perth Bears are a success, then everybody wins.

You get that four million in a different way, even if they go win the premiership with a roster, say, a 150% salary cap.

Grows the game.

Yeah, free.

So, yes, so myself, Mark Carroll.

This came about from, I did a podcast with Jess Halloran called Head Noise.

For the Australian newspaper, there was a number of other people involved in that, but Jess was the main contributor.

And one of the things we spoke about was getting an annual check-up, a brain, body and mind check-up made available for all players.

I sort of looked at my retirement and found that the thing that changed the most was how I was treated medically.

Like I needed hip surgery and...

Look, I was just a normal patient.

I wasn't a footballer.

And it was so new for me to even... And this might sound so bizarre to our listeners and our viewers, but me having to call up and book an appointment was like...