Luke Rodgers

Right. Now, you ever seen a talking donkey? You ever had one whisper in your ear?

Right. Now, you ever seen a talking donkey? You ever had one whisper in your ear?

I think it's, if I'm going to answer, I think it's because a lot of pastors and leaders in the Christian church are in a place of authority where there's a pressure to always have an answer. And that requires some humility to actually say, I don't know. And I'll point this out, too, to what Willie was saying. I think what we're discussing here is very much a Western problem.

I think it's, if I'm going to answer, I think it's because a lot of pastors and leaders in the Christian church are in a place of authority where there's a pressure to always have an answer. And that requires some humility to actually say, I don't know. And I'll point this out, too, to what Willie was saying. I think what we're discussing here is very much a Western problem.

I think it's, if I'm going to answer, I think it's because a lot of pastors and leaders in the Christian church are in a place of authority where there's a pressure to always have an answer. And that requires some humility to actually say, I don't know. And I'll point this out, too, to what Willie was saying. I think what we're discussing here is very much a Western problem.

If you get out of the West, you go to Sub-Saharan Africa, you go to the Amazon, you go, they live a very supernatural reality. All you gotta do is talk to any missionaries. Way more. Talk to Tom Doyle on the show, who basically is chronicling Muslims behind the Muslim wall, having repeated night after night dreams about Jesus. And Jesus calling these people out of Islam to himself.

If you get out of the West, you go to Sub-Saharan Africa, you go to the Amazon, you go, they live a very supernatural reality. All you gotta do is talk to any missionaries. Way more. Talk to Tom Doyle on the show, who basically is chronicling Muslims behind the Muslim wall, having repeated night after night dreams about Jesus. And Jesus calling these people out of Islam to himself.

If you get out of the West, you go to Sub-Saharan Africa, you go to the Amazon, you go, they live a very supernatural reality. All you gotta do is talk to any missionaries. Way more. Talk to Tom Doyle on the show, who basically is chronicling Muslims behind the Muslim wall, having repeated night after night dreams about Jesus. And Jesus calling these people out of Islam to himself.

And this happens regularly. And then you go, I mean, my favorite ones are missionaries where they go to these unreached places and literally these tribes are like, we worship this God. This is our God. And the story, I've heard it a hundred times now. They're like, okay, the missionaries are there. Inevitably, there's a witch doctor. The witch doctor actually does heal people.

And this happens regularly. And then you go, I mean, my favorite ones are missionaries where they go to these unreached places and literally these tribes are like, we worship this God. This is our God. And the story, I've heard it a hundred times now. They're like, okay, the missionaries are there. Inevitably, there's a witch doctor. The witch doctor actually does heal people.

And this happens regularly. And then you go, I mean, my favorite ones are missionaries where they go to these unreached places and literally these tribes are like, we worship this God. This is our God. And the story, I've heard it a hundred times now. They're like, okay, the missionaries are there. Inevitably, there's a witch doctor. The witch doctor actually does heal people.

There's this thing that happens with powers of darkness where it happens. What happens is sometimes they don't. I've heard the story at least half a dozen times. They don't. The witch doctor can't heal a person. And so, lo and behold, down the hill comes a tribesman. They say, hey, we got a guy who can't. He's not getting healed. Witch doctor can't do it. Can your God do it?

There's this thing that happens with powers of darkness where it happens. What happens is sometimes they don't. I've heard the story at least half a dozen times. They don't. The witch doctor can't heal a person. And so, lo and behold, down the hill comes a tribesman. They say, hey, we got a guy who can't. He's not getting healed. Witch doctor can't do it. Can your God do it?

There's this thing that happens with powers of darkness where it happens. What happens is sometimes they don't. I've heard the story at least half a dozen times. They don't. The witch doctor can't heal a person. And so, lo and behold, down the hill comes a tribesman. They say, hey, we got a guy who can't. He's not getting healed. Witch doctor can't do it. Can your God do it?

and these missionaries go, we believe he can, and they go pray, and the person gets healed, and what happens? The entire village converts, because they go, your God is more powerful than our God. That sort of paradigm doesn't exist in the West. We have agnostics and atheists and all these people. But it exists in the Bible, you know.

and these missionaries go, we believe he can, and they go pray, and the person gets healed, and what happens? The entire village converts, because they go, your God is more powerful than our God. That sort of paradigm doesn't exist in the West. We have agnostics and atheists and all these people. But it exists in the Bible, you know.

and these missionaries go, we believe he can, and they go pray, and the person gets healed, and what happens? The entire village converts, because they go, your God is more powerful than our God. That sort of paradigm doesn't exist in the West. We have agnostics and atheists and all these people. But it exists in the Bible, you know.

Right, but I'm just saying, when we're talking about the church, when you get out of the West, Most folks, whether you go to Haiti or Sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East, they live a very supernatural reality. They don't have this division where they've imperialized everything and said, like, we've got to measure, touch.

Right, but I'm just saying, when we're talking about the church, when you get out of the West, Most folks, whether you go to Haiti or Sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East, they live a very supernatural reality. They don't have this division where they've imperialized everything and said, like, we've got to measure, touch.

Right, but I'm just saying, when we're talking about the church, when you get out of the West, Most folks, whether you go to Haiti or Sub-Saharan Africa or the Middle East, they live a very supernatural reality. They don't have this division where they've imperialized everything and said, like, we've got to measure, touch.