Luke Tryl

And actually, on the last one you mentioned, in terms of putting a ceiling on prices for staples such as bread, milk and eggs, not all of them, to be clear, the proposal would be

that major supermarkets would have to stock at least one of those items at a certain low price.

There was a lot of discussion in the questions from the media at the SNP launch today.

My colleague from The Times next to me reading out...

Aldi's website a list of prices saying it's 55p for a pint of milk what do you think a price of a pint of milk should be and John Swinney declining to answer but that gives you a sense of the way these arguments are going to go is this practical is this desirable is it achievable and there's an argument about about you know governments intervening in the free markets John Swinney says he can do it on the basis of public health grounds they tried to do that previously over introducing a minimum unit price for alcohol and they got there in the end but as my colleague

Scotland political editor pointed out, took five years.

Yeah.

Alex, I know that you've been doing a lot of thinking about energy, which of course is a huge issue because of the oil and gas industry in the North Sea.

I mean, as Alex has ever set out beautifully.

But the Scottish Greens, of course, being the primary party who are charging for a complete end as quickly as possible to drilling in the North Sea.

But when Alex talks about differences between the parties, there's also, as you know, differences within the parties.

And strikingly, in the SNP, a difference between the position of the former First Minister, Hamza Yousaf,

and Nicola Sturgeon, the First Minister before him, and the position now of John Swinney.

John Swinney's not explicitly said that Rosebank and Jackdaw should be approved, but the implication is that that's what he expects because he said if they can meet these climate compatibility assessments, then fields should be allowed to go ahead.

But that is a shift away from the SNP's previous position, which was a presumption against more drilling.

Look, there's been a sort of like 700 year long conversation about whether Scotland is more left wing than other bits of the UK.

But it is interesting watching the Scottish election campaign unfold.

You do hear more mentions of climate change, for example, in the debate around energy than you maybe would do in England at the moment.

I'm sort of generalising here, but it's just a sort of feel.

And also the conversation about immigration, because Scotland is on the whole more pro-immigration than England is.