Luke Vargas

Corporate leaders told us they're seeing this shift too. Laurent Odeh is the chief commercial officer for nuclear energy giant Yarenko, and Andreas Schierenbeck is the CEO of power grid equipment maker Hitachi Energy.

Corporate leaders told us they're seeing this shift too. Laurent Odeh is the chief commercial officer for nuclear energy giant Yarenko, and Andreas Schierenbeck is the CEO of power grid equipment maker Hitachi Energy.

The stakes are high as Europe pursues energy sovereignty and decarbonization. But across the developing world, there is a sense that energy security cannot afford to get too tied up in geopolitical rivalries. Enya Listiani-Dewey is Indonesia's Director General for New Renewable Energy and Energy Conservation.

The stakes are high as Europe pursues energy sovereignty and decarbonization. But across the developing world, there is a sense that energy security cannot afford to get too tied up in geopolitical rivalries. Enya Listiani-Dewey is Indonesia's Director General for New Renewable Energy and Energy Conservation.

Just hours before she spoke to us, Indonesia proposed closing its trade deficit with Washington by buying U.S. goods, including American oil and gas. But as the country races to improve living standards for the world's fourth-largest population, it's not letting go of Beijing, the source of its renewable supply chain.

Just hours before she spoke to us, Indonesia proposed closing its trade deficit with Washington by buying U.S. goods, including American oil and gas. But as the country races to improve living standards for the world's fourth-largest population, it's not letting go of Beijing, the source of its renewable supply chain.

And that's it for What's News for this Friday morning. Today's show was produced by Kate Boulivant and Daniel Bach. Our supervising producer is Sandra Kilhoff, and I'm Luke Vargas for The Wall Street Journal. We will be back tonight with a new show. Otherwise, have a great weekend, and thanks for listening.

And that's it for What's News for this Friday morning. Today's show was produced by Kate Boulivant and Daniel Bach. Our supervising producer is Sandra Kilhoff, and I'm Luke Vargas for The Wall Street Journal. We will be back tonight with a new show. Otherwise, have a great weekend, and thanks for listening.

How do you see energy factoring into efforts to end the war? It's a core component.

How do you see energy factoring into efforts to end the war? It's a core component.

Tell us about minerals. This is a key component of current peace talks, but also vital for your country's economic future. How do you ensure growth there, given the fact that these minerals have been, it's difficult to extract them in the current context?

Tell us about minerals. This is a key component of current peace talks, but also vital for your country's economic future. How do you ensure growth there, given the fact that these minerals have been, it's difficult to extract them in the current context?

Do you view deals that Ukraine can make for critical minerals, for other energy resources to be in some ways protection for the country in the future? And how so?

Do you view deals that Ukraine can make for critical minerals, for other energy resources to be in some ways protection for the country in the future? And how so?

Are you seeing a change in outside interest from the private sector, in particular, since critical minerals in Ukraine have been in the news?

Are you seeing a change in outside interest from the private sector, in particular, since critical minerals in Ukraine have been in the news?

And very much in Europe, there's a debate about whether security of supply means decoupling from Russian energy sources, not just now, but in the future.

And very much in Europe, there's a debate about whether security of supply means decoupling from Russian energy sources, not just now, but in the future.

German Galushchenko is Ukraine's Minister of Energy. Thank you so much for being with us on What's News.

German Galushchenko is Ukraine's Minister of Energy. Thank you so much for being with us on What's News.