Lulu Garcia Navarro

So you don't believe that the election was a repudiation of the vision of President Biden and your vision in particular? Because, you know, obviously, President-elect Trump has a very different idea of how to engage in the world.

So you don't believe that the election was a repudiation of the vision of President Biden and your vision in particular? Because, you know, obviously, President-elect Trump has a very different idea of how to engage in the world.

I'm not asking you to do politics. I'm just asking for a little reflection on this is something you've given your life to. Obviously, the results were a disappointment. And so I wonder if that doesn't seek you to pause and reflect that perhaps that animating vision that you have –

I'm not asking you to do politics. I'm just asking for a little reflection on this is something you've given your life to. Obviously, the results were a disappointment. And so I wonder if that doesn't seek you to pause and reflect that perhaps that animating vision that you have –

had might not have been what Americans wanted I mean do you think there's just a changing sense in this country of our place in the world and what we owe our allies so

had might not have been what Americans wanted I mean do you think there's just a changing sense in this country of our place in the world and what we owe our allies so

I want to pick up on something that you said there, which is discussing Afghanistan, because this takes us back, I think, to the beginning of your tenure. You know, I think it is reasonable to argue that American skepticism of the Biden administration's handling on foreign policy is really began with the catastrophic way we got out of Afghanistan.

I want to pick up on something that you said there, which is discussing Afghanistan, because this takes us back, I think, to the beginning of your tenure. You know, I think it is reasonable to argue that American skepticism of the Biden administration's handling on foreign policy is really began with the catastrophic way we got out of Afghanistan.

There was consensus that we should absolutely end that war, but the manner in which it was done was very detrimental. You know, when President Biden first took office, there was this promise that you and everyone else that was being brought on board were the adults in the room that were going to be ending the chaos of the Trump administration.

There was consensus that we should absolutely end that war, but the manner in which it was done was very detrimental. You know, when President Biden first took office, there was this promise that you and everyone else that was being brought on board were the adults in the room that were going to be ending the chaos of the Trump administration.

How did that early failure in Afghanistan really change the sense? Do you think that President Biden really had this under control that you had it under control? Did it damage America's credibility?

How did that early failure in Afghanistan really change the sense? Do you think that President Biden really had this under control that you had it under control? Did it damage America's credibility?

But you've left a country that is in control of the Taliban, where... The stated dream of spreading democracy has been completely upended. Women have borne the brunt of that. You know, there's restrictions on their movements, restrictions on even their voices, what jobs they can take.

But you've left a country that is in control of the Taliban, where... The stated dream of spreading democracy has been completely upended. Women have borne the brunt of that. You know, there's restrictions on their movements, restrictions on even their voices, what jobs they can take.

I mean, in every possible way, the manner in which this was done and the state in which Afghanistan has been left could not have been what the United States desired.

I mean, in every possible way, the manner in which this was done and the state in which Afghanistan has been left could not have been what the United States desired.

Six months after Afghanistan, Russia invaded Ukraine. That was February of 2022. I remember that moment as being terrifying. How close were we to direct conflict?

Six months after Afghanistan, Russia invaded Ukraine. That was February of 2022. I remember that moment as being terrifying. How close were we to direct conflict?

You made two early strategic decisions on Ukraine. The first, because of that fear of direct conflict, was to restrict Ukraine's use of American weapons within Russia. The second was to support Ukraine's military offensive without a parallel diplomatic track to try and end the conflict. How do you look back on those decisions now?

You made two early strategic decisions on Ukraine. The first, because of that fear of direct conflict, was to restrict Ukraine's use of American weapons within Russia. The second was to support Ukraine's military offensive without a parallel diplomatic track to try and end the conflict. How do you look back on those decisions now?