Lulu Garcia Navarro

It must have been very painful for you to be estranged.

There was a moment that she wasn't speaking to you because she felt that you didn't support her fully.

And now that relationship seems to have been repaired.

Can you just talk to me a little bit about some of the challenges that you faced, you know, with your daughter?

At the end of the book, you say you want to go and speak to Monsieur Pellicot in prison.

I mean, have you done that yet?

And what do you need to know?

There were four years between Monsieur Perico's arrest and the trial that got so much coverage.

And you end up in this period moving to a small French island.

You make new friends and you find love again.

I think many people would find that incredible that you could trust a man again.

Giselle, I am curious.

We've talked about your mind and how you have, as you say, been able to stay standing all this time.

But after everything that you've physically gone through, how do you feel about your own body?

Gisèle Pellicot, merci beaucoup.

C'est moi qui vous remercie.

That's Gisèle Pellicot.

Her book, A Hymn to Life, Shame Has to Change Sides, will be published on February 17th.

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