Lulu Garcia Navarro

I mean, I think one of the difficulties maybe for Democrats is that what you're describing is more traditional values, right? But people vote on value. But are you saying that Democrats should recognize that people want more traditional gender roles?

I mean, I think one of the difficulties maybe for Democrats is that what you're describing is more traditional values, right? But people vote on value. But are you saying that Democrats should recognize that people want more traditional gender roles?

Be less afraid of that? No.

Be less afraid of that? No.

Hmm. You know, after the midterms in 2022, when Democrats did better than expected, many Democrats, and you included, seemed to take away that there wasn't this rightward shift among the Latino community. In fact, you said, and I'm quoting your reporters, we're talking about realignment. There's no effing realignment.

Hmm. You know, after the midterms in 2022, when Democrats did better than expected, many Democrats, and you included, seemed to take away that there wasn't this rightward shift among the Latino community. In fact, you said, and I'm quoting your reporters, we're talking about realignment. There's no effing realignment.

That's not the word you used. Why did you get it wrong?

That's not the word you used. Why did you get it wrong?

I was actually shocked to learn that President Trump was the first sitting president to go to a Super Bowl game.

I was actually shocked to learn that President Trump was the first sitting president to go to a Super Bowl game.

I want to turn to the subject of class. I interviewed J.D. Vance before the election. And, you know, even though your politics are obviously very different than his, your backgrounds do share similar traits. Working class, raised by single mothers, military service in Iraq, went to the Ivy League. And that story of class transition does seem to resonate with voters.

I want to turn to the subject of class. I interviewed J.D. Vance before the election. And, you know, even though your politics are obviously very different than his, your backgrounds do share similar traits. Working class, raised by single mothers, military service in Iraq, went to the Ivy League. And that story of class transition does seem to resonate with voters.

Something I really struggle to reconcile is On the one hand, you have voters saying that the economy and inflation are their top issues, and they feel the pain of price increases, which is completely understandable. On the other hand, under Trump, we now have the richest cabinet in modern history. The world's richest person is gutting the federal government.

Something I really struggle to reconcile is On the one hand, you have voters saying that the economy and inflation are their top issues, and they feel the pain of price increases, which is completely understandable. On the other hand, under Trump, we now have the richest cabinet in modern history. The world's richest person is gutting the federal government.

Yet polls show the president starting his second term with higher approval ratings than when he began his first term. Mm-hmm. And it sends this confusing message about what the electorate actually wants. You have class as a central part of your story. So why don't you think it's a confusing message?

Yet polls show the president starting his second term with higher approval ratings than when he began his first term. Mm-hmm. And it sends this confusing message about what the electorate actually wants. You have class as a central part of your story. So why don't you think it's a confusing message?

So the Democratic message among some Democrats have sort of eat the rich, right? Right.

So the Democratic message among some Democrats have sort of eat the rich, right? Right.

That's not the right message.

That's not the right message.