Lulu Garcia Navarro

And it must be complicated to have all that stuff play out publicly.

And it must be complicated to have all that stuff play out publicly.

You've talked some about therapy, and it's just something I just wanted to ask you because you've discussed doing EMDR, and I did EMDR.

You've talked some about therapy, and it's just something I just wanted to ask you because you've discussed doing EMDR, and I did EMDR.

And I'm just wondering about that, what it did for you, how it helped you, because it's a very specific type of therapy that really is to do with trauma. Yeah.

And I'm just wondering about that, what it did for you, how it helped you, because it's a very specific type of therapy that really is to do with trauma. Yeah.

After the break, Miley and I speak again about what her fame has done to her family.

After the break, Miley and I speak again about what her fame has done to her family.

Hi, it's Miley. Hi, it's Lulu. Hi, Lulu. How are you? I'm really good. How are you?

Hi, it's Miley. Hi, it's Lulu. Hi, Lulu. How are you? I'm really good. How are you?

Good to talk to you, too. Are you home?

Good to talk to you, too. Are you home?

Yeah, heaven. I feel you. Yeah. It was just Mother's Day. I was thinking about you and Tish. I was wondering what you all did.

Yeah, heaven. I feel you. Yeah. It was just Mother's Day. I was thinking about you and Tish. I was wondering what you all did.

You know, when you were talking about your mom and your relationship with your mom, you talked about holding this emotional baggage. And I think the phrase you used was owning her pain. And it made me wonder about your dad and if you ever felt the same about your dad because you've talked before about his rough childhood, about his own upbringing, his own struggles. Yeah.

You know, when you were talking about your mom and your relationship with your mom, you talked about holding this emotional baggage. And I think the phrase you used was owning her pain. And it made me wonder about your dad and if you ever felt the same about your dad because you've talked before about his rough childhood, about his own upbringing, his own struggles. Yeah.

And by the way, if at any point you don't want to answer any of this, just tell me.

And by the way, if at any point you don't want to answer any of this, just tell me.

Because I know that this is sensitive. The reason I sort of wonder about this is, you know, you worked so much with your dad and then you sort of surpassed him in success. And I wondered if you ever thought he felt competitive or eclipsed by that.

Because I know that this is sensitive. The reason I sort of wonder about this is, you know, you worked so much with your dad and then you sort of surpassed him in success. And I wondered if you ever thought he felt competitive or eclipsed by that.