Lulu Garcia Navarro

And did he help give you a different perspective?

Hmm.

He passed away five years ago.

Yes.

I'm just wondering how you have dealt with that loss because it was a real partnership.

I mean, you mentioned your children.

You wrote an essay in this paper last year talking about your son who has a developmental disability.

He lives with you.

He's in his late 30s.

I imagine that having a son who's part of a very vulnerable sector of society has changed your perspective on power and its uses.

How was it when your son moved out?

I mean, it must have been bittersweet.

I'm just wondering, you know, we've sort of run through the gamut of your life.

And I'm thinking about the last five years in particular, since your husband died, and now your son's moved out.

And it reminds me of something that you said in our first conversation, which is that you've been really shocked by, quote, how fast people can change.

And so I want to ask you, how have you changed in the past five years as a journalist and as a person?

Hmm.

Last question.

What should the headline for this interview be?

Dinosaurs still rule the earth.