Lydia Wheeler

It said nothing.

It is a lot of money.

It is $166 billion.

So, you know, the federal government has never been told that it has to give back that much money before.

And so what happened is the Supreme Court left it to lower courts to hash all that out.

All of this has put a big spotlight on a little tiny court that no one really knows about and even lawyers often forget exists.

And also a very interesting judge who's 77 years old and semi-retired and is now the one at the helm of figuring out how all these people are going to get their money back.

I mean, we talk to companies who kind of, the tariffs put them in a crisis.

And there are a lot of companies that are really desperate to get their money back.

Right, so this is the Court of International Trade.

It's in Manhattan.

It sits across the street from the New York Supreme Court, which is regularly featured on Law & Order.

They often do scenes on the front steps of, you know, the New York Supreme Court.

Well, right across the street in this other federal court complex is this very modern-looking, smaller building called the Court of International Trade, where these really technical disputes over trade are hashed out.

The whole purpose of it is to settle disputes over goods that come into the country.

They mostly handle claims over tariffs, things that are charged the wrong amount, how things are classified.

Every good that comes into the country is given some sort of a classification, which determines what duties are owed and how much.

And so there are sometimes really technical disputes about, you know, hey, is this glass jar really a glass jar or not?

You know, I keep joking that President Trump has done for trade lawyers what no one thought was possible, which is like made them very cool.

They've got all the biggest cases.