Lynn Smith

So once I finally met her, the book was done.

So it is such a different process than what I had been expecting because I would have loved

to meet with 16 different illustrators and be that type A control freak that I am to pick the perfect illustrator and then tell them exactly what I'm envisioning.

But I can say the illustrations would have never even been in the vicinity of what they ended up to be had it not been for that separation of

word art and illustration art.

And the 40 pages that you're talking about was additionally challenging for me because I'm conveying a very complicated topic.

It's even complicated for us as adults of resiliency, grit, courage, bravery.

Like it's a hard thing for us to define.

So it was, I mean, it took draft after draft after draft for us to drill that down to something that a six-year-old could say.

George needs this because he's scared.

That was the real challenge.

And it took years.

I mean, once it was bought, it took two years to finalize and get to print.

Yeah.

But I had to read yours, John.

When does it come out?

Oh, I can't wait.

Of course, because my job is to help leaders become more confident.

And if they're more confident, they communicate better, right?

Well, what is confidence?