Lynn Thoman

What did they get wrong?

You talked about three factors.

The first was education.

Can you elaborate?

You mentioned economic integration.

Can you elaborate on that?

And to be clear, you're talking about economic segregation, not segregation by race.

Your research keeps pointing to place.

Why does where a child grows up matter so much?

I think many people will find that very surprising.

Your new study, Raj, looks at a huge real-world experiment in housing.

And before we get to the results, what was HOPE VI trying to do?

And when you first saw the data from this program, what surprised you the most?

And children who grew up in these neighborhoods from birth did especially well?

So a lot of this comes back to what you called social capital or social connections.

Can you talk more about what kids actually pick up by being around higher income peers?

That makes it feel really tangible.

Where else do you see real opportunities to create those connections, those social connections, without the huge expense of rebuilding entire neighborhoods?

What do you see as the biggest opportunity that we're not taking advantage of right now to help people move up?

If you were advising a mayor or a governor, and I know you advise many mayors and governors, what do you advise them to do?