Lynne Thoman

Let's talk about the impact of collective bargaining and rules on a couple of other sectors. Can you talk about sanitation, for example, garbage collection?

Let's talk about the impact of collective bargaining and rules on a couple of other sectors. Can you talk about sanitation, for example, garbage collection?

How about correctional officers, prison guards?

How about correctional officers, prison guards?

How about the cost? What does this do to costs?

How about the cost? What does this do to costs?

You've given a couple of examples about New York. I think New Yorkers are shocked that the Second Avenue subway cost was $2.5 billion a mile, more than five times the cost of a similar subway in Paris.

You've given a couple of examples about New York. I think New Yorkers are shocked that the Second Avenue subway cost was $2.5 billion a mile, more than five times the cost of a similar subway in Paris.

Yep. So far, we've talked about the impact of these rules on the ineffectiveness of government services and agencies. Let's flip and now talk about some of the examples of the benefits that government employees get. Let's start with early retirement.

Yep. So far, we've talked about the impact of these rules on the ineffectiveness of government services and agencies. Let's flip and now talk about some of the examples of the benefits that government employees get. Let's start with early retirement.

How about spiking?

How about spiking?

How about health benefits? Do public sector employees and retirees get better health benefits than private sector ones?

How about health benefits? Do public sector employees and retirees get better health benefits than private sector ones?

So what you're describing essentially is that these public sector unions get benefits for their members in terms of rigid work rules and job restrictions and much higher pensions and health benefits. And in return, what do the politicians get?

So what you're describing essentially is that these public sector unions get benefits for their members in terms of rigid work rules and job restrictions and much higher pensions and health benefits. And in return, what do the politicians get?

What do the public sector unions generally want? Where do they come out on taxpayer initiatives to limit spending and reduce taxes?

What do the public sector unions generally want? Where do they come out on taxpayer initiatives to limit spending and reduce taxes?

Philip, can you read aloud from your book, please?

Philip, can you read aloud from your book, please?