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M. William Phelps

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638 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

He had founded the Virginia Biotechnology Association and been at the Center for Innovative Technology, CIT, since the company started in 1986.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

a handsome guy in a Leslie Nielsen sort of way with a bit of middle-aged weight around his belly, Schwartz's coworkers, family, and friends told me the guy was serious about life and work, but also had a soft humorous side to him as well.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

In other words, the polar opposite of a man you'd think was hated enough by someone to want to stab him 31 times inside his own home.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Terry Woodsworth, retired today, first met Dr. Schwartz in 1986.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Schwartz was the oldest of seven siblings.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

A sister later lamented Schwartz was a, quote, remarkable older brother who always had a gentle touch.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Working alongside him for over a decade, Terry got to know Dr. Schwartz on a more personal level.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

During that time, Schwartz's wife Joan had become ill with lung cancer.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

It changed him.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Before Joan got sick, he was more outgoing and social.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

But as she became sicker and he had to face the fact that he'd soon be a widower, he retreated more into himself and became quieter.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Joan Schwartz's death crushed the guy.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Their kids were in their late teens and early 20s at the time, and raising them now fell squarely on his shoulders.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Even when Joan was alive, the family had its share of rocky times.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

But once she was gone, Clara, the youngest, took it the hardest.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

That's Dr. Katherine Ramsland, a forensic psychologist, who has written about this case.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

She's talking about Clara Schwartz, who actually found her mother's body.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Dr. Schwartz, a single father, struggled with how to deal with Clara and get her through high school.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

They lived together then on the farm where there was plenty to do and he expected her, as most parents would, to step up.

The Binge Crimes: Cut, Color, Kill
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Dr. Schwartz's co-worker Terry says as Dr. Schwartz's kids grew older, he opened up about how proud he was of Jesse, the oldest, Michelle, the middle child, and even the youngest, Clara.