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M. William Phelps

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
228 total appearances

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The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

But as she became sicker and he had to face the fact that he'd soon be a widower, he retreated more into himself and became quieter.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Joan Schwartz's death crushed the guy.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Their kids were in their late teens and early 20s at the time, and raising them now fell squarely on his shoulders.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Even when Joan was alive, the family had its share of rocky times.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

But once she was gone, Clara, the youngest, took it the hardest.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

That's Dr. Katherine Ramsland, a forensic psychologist, who has written about this case.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

She's talking about Clara Schwartz, who actually found her mother's body.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Dr. Schwartz, a single father, struggled with how to deal with Clara and get her through high school.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

They lived together then on the farm where there was plenty to do and he expected her, as most parents would, to step up.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Dr. Schwartz's co-worker Terry says as Dr. Schwartz's kids grew older, he opened up about how proud he was of Jesse, the oldest, Michelle, the middle child, and even the youngest, Clara.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

It always seemed to go back to Jones' death and Schwartz having to raise them alone.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

He strove to get the best out of them all.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

And being an overachiever himself, expected it.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

In all of the investigations I have been involved in, you have to consider the victim's chosen career path, especially when someone has high visibility within what is a high profile company.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

We saw this recently with the healthcare CEO murdered on the streets of New York.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

so a question came up was dr schwartz targeted after all he knew big players within the scientific world hundreds of millions of dollars were at stake had he been involved in research or something else that could have gotten him killed

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Detective Locke was not ruling any possibility out.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

Locke's next point of evidence gathering was the grim task of attending the autopsy and seeing what unusual details of the crime the postmortem revealed.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

So Schwartz fought with his attacker, which meant there was going to be DNA.

The Binge Crimes: Fatal Fantasy
Fatal Fantasy | 1. OVERKILL

With over 700 autopsies under her belt, Dr. Carolyn Revercombe noticed immediately after she started her cursory inspection of Schwartz's body that he had suffered two stab wounds to his neck that went entirely through one side of his body and out the other side.