Maddison Sullivan-Thorpe

And it's more like this cool factor now.

It's kind of like if you saw someone's outfit, right, and you complimented them on the street and you're like, I love your jacket.

There's like plus 10 aura points for saying it was like $6 thrifted in Paris or that you got it at Swap rather than going, oh, it's new season on High Street in Armadale.

Sorry, this is really Melbourne-centric.

Sydney-less is the equivalent of Paddy.

You know, it's like there's something kind of I feel like when they're in these home tours and they're spotlighting like, oh, like I got this vase in like this tiny little market in Paris.

That's a terrible American accent.

We know that I fall in these traps.

There's something that makes them appear more interesting or tasteful than if they're just like, yeah, I had an interior stylist that helped me pull this all together and it's all brand new and straight from the showroom.

Yeah, I mean I would be very surprised to find a celebrity in the U.S.

right now who is not telling their publicist they want an AD piece because it does something for them.

The interesting thing about taste, though, is like essentially what we're getting to at the end is the same thing with AD versus MTV Cribs.

Like I love that you've referenced this.

What a throwback.

Like, hey, MTV, welcome to my crib.

Ultimately, they're opening the door and inviting you into a tour of their home.

What they're spotlighting and how they're spotlighting it is the only real difference here because we are still getting a peek.

What do you think makes AD feel so tasteful versus something like MTV Cribs that felt pretty tacky?

Can I ask you a question then because what fascinates me is that

Very rarely have any of them designed these homes or shopped any of it.