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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Maybe that could be a Manuel Noriega attempt at delivery.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right. Some would argue that we already do with the advent of TikTok. But yes, some do, though the precautions are usually just a suggestion. Sound healing isn't a strictly regulated practice by the FDA. The closest thing is a guidance issued about complementary and alternative medicine.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Back in 1992, Congress set up the Office of Alternative Medicine, which later became the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine. But this organization isn't a regulatory one. It's primarily for research and tracking. Though the FDA does acknowledge that conventional medicine already uses some kinds of, quote, energy and sound devices.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
For example, MRI machines with magnetic resonance imaging and ultrasound, like you just mentioned, is the literal use of sound energy. It's being employed in the service of medicine. And yet nobody thinks of these technologies as quackery.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Yes. Around the 1950s, there were reports of a mysterious hum that started being reported in certain cities like Taos, New Mexico, Bristol, England, and Largs, Scotland. Residents claimed that they were hearing a low-frequency hum or throbbing sound that nobody could place the source of, and it was driving some residents crazy.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Only about 2% of the population could hear the hum which made it that much more frustrating to those who could because they were afraid of being dismissed as being crackpots, and people who heard the hum experienced nausea, dizziness, headaches, and even nosebleeds. It was even the subject of an old episode of Unsolved Mysteries.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right. And the most annoying thing about it, or I guess the most puzzling, is that researchers are still trying to figure it out. They think they may have pinpointed some of the origins. For example, in Indiana, it's suspected that some of the noise might be coming from industrial equipment at a Chrysler plant.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
And another source was suspected to be a large building central heating unit in another city. Others suggest that resonance from oil and gas pipelines, like you were just saying, or even bridges. But there doesn't seem to be a clear consensus on where the sounds are coming from.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Some medical experts think that tinnitus might be the culprit, which is a disorder that can manifest itself in phantom sounds. Pardon the pun, but that sounds awful. I would feel bad for these people. Yes, it sounds awful, Jordan. And there are even some instances where sound may have been weaponized by the military or foreign agents.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly. The Havana syndrome was first reported by U.S. embassy officials in Cuba around 2016. There have been over a thousand reports of people experiencing symptoms such as intense headaches, nausea, ear-piercing sounds, and like the Taos Hum, even nosebleeds.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right. And like the Taos Hum, not really. For a time, it was speculated that the source may have been a covert sonic weapon deployed by the Russian military or possibly a microwave device. But the most recent assessments from U.S. intelligence agencies have concluded that it's, quote, very unlikely that foreign adversaries have deployed such a weapon in Cuba.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
So, not much to go off of, and some folks even suggest that this might be psychosomatic, or basically, it's all in your head, or imagination, to be precise.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Yeah, it's actually U.S. official policy to gaslight people who are experiencing it.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Oh yeah, it's insane. And sound is even used as a deterrent in civilian settings. Have you ever heard of the mosquito?
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
It is a terrible bug, but this might be even worse. It's an audio device called the mosquito that some cities have deployed to combat teenagers from loitering. Ooh, brilliant.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Yes, a number of parks around the country started implementing youth-repellent devices that emit loud piercing sounds that only young people can hear. So, humans are able to hear frequencies between 20 and 20,000 Hz. But over time, the cells in our ears start to die, and we become less sensitive to the high end frequencies of sounds.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
So, after about the age of 25, our sensitivity to these sounds starts to drop off to around 14,400 Hz. In fact, The tone that only kids and younger people can hear is tuned at about 17,400. So if we play it right now, you can pause this episode and get a young person in the room to see if they can hear this frequency.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
I will tell you right now, I don't hear anything.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Yeah, so ASMR stands for Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response. Basically, they're sounds that cause us to feel a tingle when we hear them. Anything from the sound of painting and carving wood to bubbles fizzing in a can of soda.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly. Most of these videos are used as a sleeping aid, and people who listen to them report feeling a sense of calm and relaxation, while others, like me, feel like our brains are being invaded. It makes my skin crawl.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Thank you, Jordan. Sure did. Number two, buddy. Nice. Jordan, you ever notice how a good tune can lift your spirits?
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Well, there's no strong consensus, though there's a physiologist named Dr. Craig Richard who published a paper that found that regions of the brain activated during ASMR are similar to the regions of brain that are activated when you receive kindness or reassurance from a friend or caretaker in the real world.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Yeah, it's definitely adjacent to, and I think that's why a lot of people like me and yourself feel uncomfortable hearing this stuff. I don't know what to feel. But it is popular. It's so popular that it was showcased in a Super Bowl ad a few years ago. Back in 2005, Zoe Kravitz appeared in a Michelob Ultra beer commercial doing 45 seconds of ASMR.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Okay, that can't be real? But it's YouTube, so it probably is. Oh, it is. And it's not even the weirdest stuff out there. If you spend a few minutes going down the rabbit hole, you can find ASMR for just about anything, including Dr. Phil threatening your life while he stalks you outside your home.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly. Not only is it real, the stuff is surprisingly very well produced. It's hard to explain, but they actually did a good job of making it sound sinister, but still soft enough that some sociopath might find it relaxing.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right. Well, that's where you might be wrong, at least according to sound healing practitioners.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right, so there's been an explosion of frequency-based videos and playlists called binaural beats, which are sort of a sound illusion. Just like there are optical illusions that can be visually misleading, there are also aural illusions that can make us inadvertently perceive a different sound than the one we're actually hearing.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
So, for example, if you listen to two frequencies that are below 1000 Hz and less than 30 Hz apart, your brain will eventually synchronize the two tones and you'll perceive a third, different tone in addition to the two tones that make it up. Okay, and what does that have to do with sound healing?
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Well, as with the overall benefit from sound healing, most studies have shown a reduction in anxiety and an increase in relaxation. For example, in 2011, a randomized control trial was conducted on 291 patients admitted for emergencies in Australia. After being exposed to binaural beats, they found that roughly 10 to 15% reduction in anxiety.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
But other research has found that the results are short-lived on anxiety and have diminishing returns over time. The most studied frequencies tend to be around the 40 Hz range. What's so special about 40 hertz? Well, listening to 40 hertz binaural beats for 15 to 20 minutes or so has been found to enhance working memory. Wow, that's impressive.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Yeah, scientists tested participants by giving them a list of words to recall, and a significant increase was found for recalling the eighth word in a list of 15 words participants were asked to remember in the same order. But beyond 20 minutes, no change was observed to further exposure. It should be noted, though, that the overall improvement was tiny.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly. Well, there are people who run sound bath sessions either in person or at community centers and even some churches and hospitals sometimes.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right, so this is actually pretty interesting. The research dates back to as far as 1988, when scientists found that two neurons oscillate synchronously when they're stimulated in the receptive field. Ironically, they were researching visual reception in consciousness.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Since then, there have been a number of interesting studies done, including a relatively recent one that looked at the effects of 40 and 100 Hz frequencies on cell growth. The tests were pretty robust and found that these frequencies did actually have an effect on cell growth.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
So while there's a lot of research to be done, the most interesting conclusion was that exposing cells to a 100 Hz frequency didn't cause damage and in fact seemed to stimulate some cell growth. 40 Hz range showed particular promise on tissue growth and potential treatment of nervous tissue in various diseases.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly, but there is a huge middle ground between the science and mysticism. If you look for 40Hz binaural beats on YouTube, you'll start to find audio tracks people have titled with some very dubious claims.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Everything from videos that claim it's a miracle for depression and anxiety, and even some that suggest that the frequencies can combat fibromyalgia pain and Alzheimer's, and even Parkinson's disease. It's beyond irresponsible, and it gives people false hopes. And even worse, it may delay patients from seeking effective modern medical intervention.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Can I just turn on my radio and get healed with sound? Obviously, it's specific in some way. Possibly, or at least in theory, it could work the same way. A sound is a sound, right? Except sound healers usually use crystal bowls and tuning forks that they claim are tuned to very specific resonant frequencies in our bodies.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly, it's awful. Some of the comments on these videos are telling people to seek out frequencies in the 528Hz range to heal cancerous tumors, and what's worse is that sometimes sick and desperate people will actually listen to them. One comment on a YouTube video for a 40Hz audio clip states, I have a brain tumor and I hope this will help.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
to which someone replied and said, well, as far as the tumor you mentioned, you can try slash research Rife frequencies and slash or 528 hertz. Rife can give you the specific frequency of the tumor healing exactly what you need it to. What does that even mean? Right. He's talking about the scientist in the, I think, in the 1950s or 60s.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
His name is Reif, and he researched using targeted sound healing frequencies to target specific cancerous cells in the body. And since then, there's all these conspiracy theories about how the pharmaceutical companies tried to suppress his research and destroyed his labs and this and that. But many scientists have looked at his work and haven't been able to replicate it.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
So the verdict is out at best. But the person in this comment section throws out a perfunctory disclaimer by saying, I'm not a doctor, I encourage you to use your discretion in research before trying, but then immediately follows this up by saying, however, 5.8 is a healing for DNA. Okay.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
And of course, the implication here, as with much of alternative medicine, is that the cure to some disease is within reach, but this knowledge is being suppressed by big pharma or some dark interest.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly. So the implication here is that they're so evil and nefarious that they are killing themselves and their own family members to suppress these supposed cures. And it doesn't even begin to address the elephant in the room, which is if somebody discovered a sound frequency that could cure cancer...
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
And if that doesn't ring the BS alarm bells, most practitioners would probably say there's limited benefit without their guidance.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
you bet your ass it would make headlines, probably first and foremost from the Nobel Prize Committee.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right, well, like you said earlier, as with most alternative medicine, one of the biggest red flags to look for is the word toxin. If some treatment claims to be relieving you of some ambiguous toxins in your body without defining exactly what they are, when they got there, or how they'll be removed, chances are good that you're listening to bullshit.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
For example, that YouTube comment that we referenced earlier where the person was ranting about the 528 hertz frequency being, quote, healing for DNA. They also said that the 741 hertz frequency will cleanse your body of toxins, and they mention it also works for infections.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
That's right. All you apparently have to do to get rid of these unnamed toxins in your body while simultaneously healing infections is listen to a YouTube video playing a certain frequency and bam, you're healed. So which infections? All infections? Don't ask, Jordan. It's just infections, okay? They're healed. Forget about it. Smash that like button, leave two comments, and call me in the morning.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Magical thinking, for those who aren't familiar with the term, is when you think unrelated events can be caused by external and unrelated causes. An extension of this is thinking that supernatural forces or just your own beliefs can change realities in the physical world.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
And while there's a lot of research that shows that you can think about yourself and affect everything from your mood to your physical health, it doesn't go beyond that. You can't move objects with your mind, for example, and listening to sounds on YouTube can't magically cure your cancer.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right. Like you mentioned, tragically, one of the most famous examples is Steve Jobs, who refused to operate on his pancreatic cancer when it was first detected. He told Walter Isaacson in his biography that it was one of his big regrets. Jobs' cancer was discovered during a CT scan while they were looking for kidney stones.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
His former pancreatic cancer was one of the rare ones that were slow-growing and had a good shot of being cured. And despite the urging of his doctors, friends, and family, he refused treatment until it was too late. Jobs opted to go the alternate medicine route, taking natural dietary supplements, juices, and he even tried acupuncture.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
When these treatments didn't work, he finally decided to try seeking experimental treatments by sequencing his entire genome so that scientists could try to develop a treatment specifically for his exact form of cancer. Jeez, I guess if you're a billionaire and you're about to die, you got nothing to lose. Right, and what good is a billion dollars if you're dead?
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
So he went down this path and, tragically, the rest is history. By the time he decided to listen to doctors and his family members, it was too late. The cancer had spread and they were unable to stop it. Isaacson speculated that Jobs' contrarian approach to solving problems and a touch of magical thinking may have contributed to his bad decisions.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
What served him well in the business world ended up being part of his undoing. I swear to God, if this is a plug for Android... No, no. No need, buddy. Androids need no shilling, okay? Fine. The point is, it's easy to get blindness to the decisions you've made that were wrong when you only focus on the decisions you've made that were right.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
As with most practices, spiritual, corporate, or otherwise, if someone's spending their time doing it, there's probably a bill associated with it. Although it's usually not a lot of money. So, for example, a 45-minute session in Chicago could cost around $30. And to be fair, some practitioners do it on a donation basis.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right. There's got to be some other type of fallacy where somebody is really competent and really good at doing one particular type of thing. Like, let's admit it, as much as I don't like Apple products or the iPhone, I don't use one. He was a visionary. He was a luminary in his field. He was very good at design and understanding technology and the trends of technology.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
However, when you try to extrapolate that to other forms of intelligence, like, for example, education and technical expertise, like the medical field, that's where you start to run into problems.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Michael Jordan might be able to throw some of the best free throws in basketball or Kobe Bryant, but I wouldn't trust them to make medical decisions or any other decisions outside of their specific field.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly. You start drinking your own Kool-Aid and you go down this rabbit hole where you think you know the answer to everything. And more often than not, you don't.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly. At its most credible, sound healing does seem to aid with relaxation and reduce stress in a lot of people. And if that's what you get from it, more power to you. We could all use a little less stress and a little bit more relaxation in our lives. But beyond that, I wouldn't turn to sound healing in lieu of evidence-based medicine just yet.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Scientists aren't foregoing sound and energy healing because of a conspiracy. They're using it every day in modern medicine in the form of MRIs and ultrasound. So if there's a medical breakthrough that uses sound to treat cancer or other ailments, you can rest assured that it likely won't be a secret for long.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Yeah, they are relaxing. You can stand in them and it makes a pleasant humming noise.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Well, there is tons of evidence that I do love cucumber water based on a study where I liked it, but the sample size was just me. But as for the evidence for sound healing, it's mixed. At the most grounded end of the spectrum is the association between sound and stress.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
As we all know, stress can exacerbate a number of serious illnesses and disorders from chronic fatigue and depression to heart disease, diabetes, and addiction. Right. Okay. So anything that could reduce stress could help at the very least alleviate some of the symptoms you might feel from stress and these ailments.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
One study, for example, measured the levels of tension, anger, fatigue, anxiety, depression, and a number of other variables before and after sound bowl meditation in a group of participants. And the study found that the group experienced a reduction in physical pain and a strong reduction in tension, especially in age group of 40 to 59 years old.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
So this confirmed their hypothesis that sound meditation would increase the feelings of relaxation and decrease the feelings of stress.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right, so on a basic level, sure, anything that helps reduce your stress would benefit your overall well-being. But the reason sound healing might be extra beneficial is the communal aspect of doing it. While you can do it one-on-one, many sound healing practitioners do it in groups where you can socialize and communicate with like-minded people. So it's like taking a workout class, I guess.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Exactly. And plus, saying you could read a book or go to the beach is one thing, but making a deliberate effort to do that for people who are landlocked in big cities, it might not always be an option. Sometimes taking the deliberate effort with the intent to relax can make a difference.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right. And you might not be more relaxed after reading a few chapters of American Psycho if that's the way you're going to unwind.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Well, when it comes to stress, sure. But where things start to take a departure from science is when sound healers start throwing around science-y sounding jargon about quantum physics mixed with new agey language about ancient wisdom and how sound healing integrates the five elements.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right, or the most common trope in video games and Eastern mythology about the elements representing forces of nature. Even Greek and Roman mythology had aspects of this within their system of gods representing each basic biome, from the air to the sea. After all, the word helium comes from the name Helios, which is the name ancient Greeks gave to the sun god.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
And it's where we first discovered helium, on the sun of all places, by observing the spectral absorption lines to determine which elements were present on the sun.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Nothing. Or at least they shouldn't. Like you implied earlier, the concept of the five elements isn't a scientific one. It dates back to Chinese medicine from 300 BC, where an imbalance of these elements in our bodies supposedly led to dysfunction and disease. Of course, many sound healing practitioners lean heavily on the, quote, wisdom of the ancients.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right, and people forget that the ancient Egyptians thought that the brain was useless and pulled them out of people's skulls through their noses. Even Aristotle didn't know what the brain was for and thought it was a cooling unit for the heart.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Well, it's a form of appeal to authority fallacy. When you start diving into sound healing websites, it's only a matter of time before they start quoting Einstein about something he supposedly said. Most of these quotes are misattributed, like claiming he said that everything in life is vibration. People have done research to find that exact quote and haven't been able to attribute it to him.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Well, if we're being generous, it's coming from a place of misunderstanding or naivete. At worst, it could be a form of manipulation. So it's someplace probably in between.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Well, if I'm being cynical, like usual, money is emotive. So we touched on it a bit earlier, but from the session fees to the training fees to become a certified sound practitioner, these fees could run into the thousands of dollars for various levels of training and instruments. Okay, and if we're not being cynical?
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
well then it's probably just naivete one website claims that according to quantum physics everything is energy and energy is vibration therefore each cell in the human body has a unique vibration and frequency while cells like just about anything else in the universe do have a resonant frequency not every cell necessarily has a unique frequency
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
cells in the human body tend to come in clusters depending on where they are found and what their function is so mit researchers have developed an imaging technique to determine the difference between red blood cells that are healthy versus ones with malaria it's really cool technology and since every cell has a host of chemical and biological activities taking place
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
It's possible to determine healthy from unhealthy cells by using some very sensitive imaging technique. But there's no reason to believe that two or more healthy blood cells found in the same region with a similar function made of the same chemical composition would necessarily have a unique resonant frequency.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
After all, each individual blood cell in our bodies have to be similar enough for our bodies and organs to recognize them, right? That makes sense.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Well, not so fast there, Jordan. This stuff isn't without risk, and this is an area that many advocates gloss over. Sound can actually be damaging to our nerves and cells.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Right. Some people find cold play relaxing, for example. Others want to light themselves on fire when they hear the first few bars of clocks.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
With apologies. And obviously sound can be damaging to our ears and senses like prolonged exposures to leaf blowers or standing next to speakers at a dubstep concert without any protection can lead to permanent hearing damage. Though some might argue that it might be worth it to get your face melted off at a Skrillex concert.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Oh, yeah. At some point, he's like, all right, that's it. I'm done. I want to know what the track he came out to.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
Sounds like the average date I go on. Everyone hates metal so much. That's so funny. But beyond hearing impairment, sound can cause all sorts of issues in the body.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
One study I found pointed out that vibrations can cause structural damage and inflammation of nerves in forest workers with higher prevalence of Raynaud's phenomenon, which is a disorder that can cause reduced blood circulation to your fingers.
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
yeah it's a combination of the noise and the vibration which also causes damage to the circulatory system nerves joints and bones yeah exactly so for example a 250 hertz vibration could induce oxidative stress and nerves leading to inflammation and children and newborns are especially sensitive to sounds and vibrations some studies have even looked at the stress caused by baby carriers such as a stroller during transportation and its effect on a child's nervous system
The Jordan Harbinger Show
1108: Sound Healing | Skeptical Sunday
While the research is limited, we know that in some adults, vibrations can lead to increased blood pressure, motion sickness, vomiting and increased cranial pressure.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
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The LOL Podcast
What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
big red and that's what red dye 40 does that would be your favorite soda big red is low-key fire no they sell it at our school still but you can't drink red 40 so i threw it away when it was all filled up big red is nasty i'm just really hesitant about dyes now yeah but you know what kate also says we go in the gym and she's like help me work out i'm like like
The LOL Podcast
What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
For the next episode, let's get Mentos and Coke and put them in our mouth.
The LOL Podcast
What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
You said, mom, why are you taking a photo of us? Why are you flashbacking?
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
I thought that was my mom. Now I'm embarrassed. No, but I appreciate it.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
You know, when I met Maddox at first, I thought he was a really cool person. But now, he's even cooler. Really? Yeah.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Wait, do you talk to him a lot? I mean, the last time I talked to him was... Got the clip? Okay.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
You. We know it was you. Okay. Literally, I think he has a crush on two of my friends.
The LOL Podcast
What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
um this is cap mad i'm calling all the cat oh yeah shriek is number seven it's seven uh they do have a seven day streak okay wow marper is still on a seven day streak but the thing is i'm pretty sure he wants gg and i'm happy for them okay i don't think you know anything because i don't think you i don't think i just don't think you know okay well you want to know what i got told what
The LOL Podcast
What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Okay. Me and Gigi were snapping. No. No, no. Really? Well, me and Gigi were snapping, and she told me that, like, they FaceTime a lot, and I was like, oh, my gosh, like, I'm so happy for you, and so I am. I'm happy for y'all.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Whatever the heck it is, yeah. I guess it's an end to an era. Sorry, let me redo that. It's an end of an era.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
But I hope y'all know we were never dating or talking or anything.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
We homies, I guess. I don't even think he wants to be my friend. Yeah, he does want to be your friend.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Okay, yeah, well, what's it called? So yeah, we were never talking, dating, or anything. So I'm addressing that right now. No, we didn't ever talk day or anything. Whoa.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
No, I've been the opposite one, and I'm like, we're friends.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
But I have the biggest crush on this guy in my school. I really, really like him. He's like a little...
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
cutie do you dream about him i do really i think about him 24 hours seven really 24 hours seven are you obsessed i am like i don't think he even wants to be friends with me does he not know you exist i don't even think so do you walk past him in the hallway yes and i we make eye contact and i'm like and then that's it nothing but does he really not know you exist but i mean we text
The LOL Podcast
What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
I mean, not three months. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of killing exes' cats.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Everybody already knows it, but I'm not saying it. Let me tell y'all something really fast. I know already. In three months' time, I'll tell y'all if me and...
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Yeah, Costco. He kind of looks like Costco, honestly.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
No, I'll tell you if we're... If he possibly even wants to... Well, we'll see how this fortune tells, portrays. Now, Kate, the dead cat.
The LOL Podcast
What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Yo, I'm literally going home and sleeping. Yeah, it's nap time. I love you one, Duncan.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Mav, I'm not. No, unfortunately. All right, well... We should do it for another episode.
The LOL Podcast
What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
remote not not happening oh i'm like i'm in remote control of your body anybody no i got nothing wait remote see it's hard as fruit man i can do it help me out here alex alex alex is a song guy he probably got like five remote choose a different word that's too hard yeah let's do it unforgettable unforgettable how about that unforgettable chair um i know one george straight
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
POUR MY FEELINGS IN THE MICROPHONE! I say it and it would've- Yeah, it's my story.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Video games. It's you, it's you, it's all for you. Everything you do, it's a table time.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Oh, no, no. What? The thing is, I'm pretty sure he wants Gigi.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
You framed me, so I let it go. Okay, we don't know.
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What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Okay, let's do a speed round for all of us. No, we have to move on from this.
The LOL Podcast
What Happened To Harper and Maddox?
Lip balm. People at home are definitely guessing all the right songs.