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Madhumita Murgia

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
133 total appearances

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FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

It's people, it's talent, which is a huge, huge commodity.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And sort of, you know, there's only a limited pool of people who really are the best in the world at building AI and deploying it.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And yes, we're going to train up more.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

But these companies, they're fighting over this limited pool of people.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

You can see that from the sort of salaries that they command.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And a lot of these researchers, they are scientists.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

Many come from physics or chemistry, and they are driven by something more than a commercial imperative just to get rich.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

I mean, we do know from the case this week that people like Greg Brockman might feel differently and are maybe driven by how can I get to my billion dollars.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

Yeah, in court in the case of Elon Musk versus OpenAI.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And he had been musing about how he could hit a billion dollars.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

But I think like in contrast, many of the researchers who are sort of key to building AI are here because they want to invent something amazing that has a positive beneficial impact on society that...

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

solves huge unsolvable problems.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And having spoken to some of them this past week, there is this real sense of disillusionment.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And it's funny because like when you look at it from the outside as a journalist following it, you wonder why didn't they know this already?

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

You can see how AI has been accelerating in terms of its rollout and how it's being used in military and other contexts.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

So why now?

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

But one person I spoke to said, you know, for the first time they could see directly how something that they contributed to building could result in real loss of innocent lives.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And there was nothing they could do to stop it.

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

And the way this person described it is there's a feeling, a widespread feeling amongst this talent of just helplessness and lack of agency to the point where people are just quitting and saying, what is the point of anything really?

FT Tech Tonic
AI Labs: Google DeepMind plans its comeback

Right.