Maggie Gyllenhaal

I don't know.

That's the question.

And I haven't seen it recently enough to say whether I can.

But I think that's what I was trying to stir up at the time.

Can she have what she wants even if it's not what you would want?

Well, I don't think back then, although maybe in other ways I wanted to push boundaries just for the sake of it, maybe, but in my work.

I think, at least looking back on it from here, like I think I wanted similar things.

I think I wanted to make people think and not just think, like feel into thinking.

Secretary was also the first time I really expressed my artistic self.

I hadn't had like a template, a palette, like I hadn't had the space.

So that kind of attention was tied up with that.

Also, I met Peter when that movie came out, like right around then.

So it was like falling in love, finding some voice as an artist, which obviously shifted and changed throughout my career and grew and everything.

But that was the first time.

So it was kind of like just like a moment of life, like a...

like a little explosion in a lot of ways.

And I wasn't well-known at that point.

Jake was.

You know, in general, I am very interested in envy and

I think there's a reason why it's a seven deadly sin, you know?