Maggie Haberman

For foreign policy. For foreign policy.

For foreign policy. For foreign policy.

That's part of it, but he's doing that because he likes the way Vladimir Putin rules, which is, as he would say, about a range of people with an iron fist. That is what he likes. That is what appeals to him. So that is why he is giving that deference. I think Zolan is exactly right, and I would just add that this is where –

That's part of it, but he's doing that because he likes the way Vladimir Putin rules, which is, as he would say, about a range of people with an iron fist. That is what he likes. That is what appeals to him. So that is why he is giving that deference. I think Zolan is exactly right, and I would just add that this is where –

the leverage over whomever comes into play, and this is how our Eric Adams conversation relates to this, Trump is showing all of these foreign leaders that he will do these kinds of things at home too. He will do these kinds of things within the U.S. He will try to make his strength known locally, even though there is supposed to be some level of autonomy within states.

the leverage over whomever comes into play, and this is how our Eric Adams conversation relates to this, Trump is showing all of these foreign leaders that he will do these kinds of things at home too. He will do these kinds of things within the U.S. He will try to make his strength known locally, even though there is supposed to be some level of autonomy within states.

But yes, I do think that there is a growingly visible imperialism I personally don't think Donald Trump is any different than he was in his first term. He just happens to actually understand more about where levers are. But this was hidden from view, this side of him, and his impulses were curbed by a number of advisors. It goes back to now it is just all hanging out there because he can.

But yes, I do think that there is a growingly visible imperialism I personally don't think Donald Trump is any different than he was in his first term. He just happens to actually understand more about where levers are. But this was hidden from view, this side of him, and his impulses were curbed by a number of advisors. It goes back to now it is just all hanging out there because he can.

Mr. President, why should the king take in the Palestinian people? He's made clear he doesn't want to.

Mr. President, why should the king take in the Palestinian people? He's made clear he doesn't want to.

One hundred percent. The dynamics might be a little bit different, but the basic through line is the same with both the Eric Adams case and that meeting with King Abdullah and what Trump is trying to extract from him, which is I want something and you are reliant on me. In Abdullah's case, it is aid. Right. Billions of dollars a year that the U.S. gives to Jordan. Correct.

One hundred percent. The dynamics might be a little bit different, but the basic through line is the same with both the Eric Adams case and that meeting with King Abdullah and what Trump is trying to extract from him, which is I want something and you are reliant on me. In Abdullah's case, it is aid. Right. Billions of dollars a year that the U.S. gives to Jordan. Correct.

In Eric Adams' case, it is his freedom. He is going to apply pressure and he's going to do it pretty plainly.

In Eric Adams' case, it is his freedom. He is going to apply pressure and he's going to do it pretty plainly.

You are hitting on a very important dynamic with Trump. And this one has been consistent for a very long time, if not forever. Everything is zero sum. Everything is zero sum. There are clear winners. There are clear losers. And so everything with Trump is a maximalist position. And then he sees, you know, if he has to even walk things back in a different direction.

You are hitting on a very important dynamic with Trump. And this one has been consistent for a very long time, if not forever. Everything is zero sum. Everything is zero sum. There are clear winners. There are clear losers. And so everything with Trump is a maximalist position. And then he sees, you know, if he has to even walk things back in a different direction.

Thank you, Michael, and honored to be here with you for it.

Thank you, Michael, and honored to be here with you for it.

You think Democrats are afraid to talk to Trump voters?

You think Democrats are afraid to talk to Trump voters?