Maggie McKellar

And he describes the women being raped and sort of the desperation.

And it was the multiple layers of suffering that undid me.

And it was so strange that it was – the tears came for me when I read the historical account.

It was kind of like she built it up, built it up, built it up, and then, yes, I had a lonely moment in the middle of the night.

But a really –

a moment that I was grateful to have been given.

There's a sense of hope but it's kind of like the power of the story knocks you out again in the next chapter and, you know, it's like you're forced to confront what is being carried forward.

But, yeah, I think that is a very, a scene that reclaims hope.

And a few laughs.

I would so encourage, recommend this book so highly because

as something that people shouldn't be afraid to read.

It'll take you on a wonderful journey and you're the richer for reading it.

The much disputed question in our family, distantly.

Well, yes, I can't quite work it out, but I do.

I'm so lucky to have on my bedroom wall a Dorothea McKellar original that she's painted and typed up and hand-corrected of Cora, My Heart, My Country.

I probably shouldn't have said that.

I just love that quote.

That was fantastic, that little bit.

Oh, Miles Franklin means she's such a contradictory, idiosyncratic, complicated, fascinating writer but also like present, I guess.

So, yeah, she kind of in lots of ways she led by example.