Maggie McKellar

Yes, but we don't, I mean, I find her the best.

Yes, that's exactly right.

There's a lovely line where she talks about, she describes Sabella's mother, Miles describes Sabella's mother as the polish has worn off her mother by the years and years of scrubbing.

And I just thought the way that she describes domestic labour, it felt like

eerie parallels in my life.

They cross time.

totally significant.

I think My Brilliant Career does the thing that brings together both the romance of the Australian bush and the harsh reality of drought, which is in the one book.

And I think she does, she's drawing Australia for us and she's

for an audience that hadn't been able to see it.

So she's kind of giving them a space to imagine themselves as a nation.

Yeah, I think she's really significant.

And the fact that she's so passionately Australian

on her travels in America and in London and in the bequeathing of the prize that celebrates Australian literature and Australian subject matter is just, it's such an amazing legacy.

So yeah, I think despite the limitations of this book and how much it is also a product of the time it was written in, it's really an important stepping stone into a book that we talked about earlier like

the yield.

I think there's connections between those two books that would be interesting to explore.

Thank you.

It was a great romp, as Miles would say.

Indeed.