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The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

TerraServer did black out that part of Washington, but on Google Earth, it showed back up. But if the military really had taken over the property, they would have covered up the hole. People have been searching for it for years, and of the many locations I found, there was one that was really compelling. This is the Google map. someone actually went to the location to see what was there.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

TerraServer did black out that part of Washington, but on Google Earth, it showed back up. But if the military really had taken over the property, they would have covered up the hole. People have been searching for it for years, and of the many locations I found, there was one that was really compelling. This is the Google map. someone actually went to the location to see what was there.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

These are the pictures. During one of his phone calls, Mel said there were two old buildings on the property and one of them eventually collapsed under snow. This fits the description pretty well. And also on the property is this. Yup, a hole about nine feet wide with a stone retaining wall, exactly how Mel described.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

These are the pictures. During one of his phone calls, Mel said there were two old buildings on the property and one of them eventually collapsed under snow. This fits the description pretty well. And also on the property is this. Yup, a hole about nine feet wide with a stone retaining wall, exactly how Mel described.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

Now, this caused quite a stir online, but the hole turned out to be an old well and definitely had a bottom. If you search the internet, you'll find a lot of people claiming they found Mel's hole. They haven't. It's never been found. At least, not yet. As for Mel, he's a complicated character. There's no record of a Mel or Melvin Waters living in the area, but...

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

Now, this caused quite a stir online, but the hole turned out to be an old well and definitely had a bottom. If you search the internet, you'll find a lot of people claiming they found Mel's hole. They haven't. It's never been found. At least, not yet. As for Mel, he's a complicated character. There's no record of a Mel or Melvin Waters living in the area, but...

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

Some have claimed he was using a pseudonym to protect his identity. That makes sense. Now, something that really hurts the credibility of the story is the lack of pictures. In every call, Art asks for photographs, but sometimes Mel just doesn't think to take a picture. He forgets, which is ridiculous. Another time, he says cameras don't work near the hole because of interference.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

Some have claimed he was using a pseudonym to protect his identity. That makes sense. Now, something that really hurts the credibility of the story is the lack of pictures. In every call, Art asks for photographs, but sometimes Mel just doesn't think to take a picture. He forgets, which is ridiculous. Another time, he says cameras don't work near the hole because of interference.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

Or he does have pictures and recordings, but they're not handy, so he'll send them when he can. But in Mel's defense, he never plugs anything. Even if this is a hoax, he could have made a fortune selling t-shirts, books, phony photographs, anything. People would buy that stuff just because it's cool. I would buy a Mel's whole t-shirt.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

Or he does have pictures and recordings, but they're not handy, so he'll send them when he can. But in Mel's defense, he never plugs anything. Even if this is a hoax, he could have made a fortune selling t-shirts, books, phony photographs, anything. People would buy that stuff just because it's cool. I would buy a Mel's whole t-shirt.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

Yeah, that part of the story was pretty wild. And that's a common argument that Mel's story got crazier and crazier. And eventually he just couldn't keep up with it. So he bailed on the hoax. But he was pretty consistent with the facts over five years. And Art Bell tried many, many times to trip him up, but he couldn't do it. Now, the hole itself just isn't geologically possible.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

Yeah, that part of the story was pretty wild. And that's a common argument that Mel's story got crazier and crazier. And eventually he just couldn't keep up with it. So he bailed on the hoax. But he was pretty consistent with the facts over five years. And Art Bell tried many, many times to trip him up, but he couldn't do it. Now, the hole itself just isn't geologically possible.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

A hole many miles deep would be unstable and collapse in on itself. Unless it was a bottomless hole to another dimension. Right. Unless it's that. But I don't think we'll ever know. Mel's hole has many believers, but I don't think Art Bell was one of them. But Art was an entertainer. And this is the type of story that his listeners loved. It's a legend that people still talk about 30 years later.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

A hole many miles deep would be unstable and collapse in on itself. Unless it was a bottomless hole to another dimension. Right. Unless it's that. But I don't think we'll ever know. Mel's hole has many believers, but I don't think Art Bell was one of them. But Art was an entertainer. And this is the type of story that his listeners loved. It's a legend that people still talk about 30 years later.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

But for me in this channel, this was a masterclass on how to present an urban legend. Let the story breathe, but still challenge the specifics. Explore the mystery, but keep it grounded. Be critical, but compassionate. I try to approach topics this way, but very few others do.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

But for me in this channel, this was a masterclass on how to present an urban legend. Let the story breathe, but still challenge the specifics. Explore the mystery, but keep it grounded. Be critical, but compassionate. I try to approach topics this way, but very few others do.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

A channel that tells mysterious stories without giving all the facts will get more clicks and it will get more subscribers. But that's a shame because it's dishonest and you deserve better. We all do. I think that episode still holds up. And they don't all hold up. That was episode 73. And... What year? Oh, yeah. That was a time where at this... In this history of the channel.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

A channel that tells mysterious stories without giving all the facts will get more clicks and it will get more subscribers. But that's a shame because it's dishonest and you deserve better. We all do. I think that episode still holds up. And they don't all hold up. That was episode 73. And... What year? Oh, yeah. That was a time where at this... In this history of the channel.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

I think that episode still holds up. And they don't all hold up. That was number 73. That was a point in the channel where I was really frustrated. I was two years into this, 73 episodes, and nobody was watching. It was like 2,500 people, subscribers, and they weren't watching. It would get like 500 views.

The Why Files: Operation Podcast
588: COMPILATION: Hole Stories and Underground Mysteries

I think that episode still holds up. And they don't all hold up. That was number 73. That was a point in the channel where I was really frustrated. I was two years into this, 73 episodes, and nobody was watching. It was like 2,500 people, subscribers, and they weren't watching. It would get like 500 views.