Maitlis

So I don't want to sort of puncture, burst the balloon too quickly.

But it is quite interesting when you ask people what they like about Peter Magyar.

They have this sort of furrowed brow look.

They can't actually name the thing that they like, except that he is not Orban.

And to put this in context.

Magyar was with the Fidesz party.

He was at Orbán's side.

And so many of his policies, many of his inclinations are naturally pretty conservative, naturally maybe much more hardline than certainly the young are expecting.

I don't think he's going to massively change Hungary's immigration policies.

He hasn't really talked about LGBTQ rights at all.

He has said that he wants to become a more central part to the EU.

But I think that there will be a slight sort of reawakening when people look and say, well, what is he going to change?

I mean, in...

The recent past of Hungary, we have had Viktor Orban, who has gone from anti-communist to virtually in bed with Putin, and many blame the fact that his foreign secretary was so close to Lavrov that, you know, a leak that emerged a couple of days ago really sort of sealed the fate for Orban by making it look like they were the party of Putin.

But I think it is wrong to try and look at Magyar as, as you say, this sort of great

new progressive hope.

He isn't.

In fact, his ex-wife, Judith Varga, who was in Orbán's cabinet, actually accused him of domestic violence.

Now, many think that is part of a dirty tricks campaign, but here you have a woman who was married to the man that will be prime minister, who says that he is a domestic abuser.

You know, it's not been proven in the courts.