Maitlis

And on that basis, you are saying conspiracy to threaten the life of the president.

I mean, it's just nuts.

It will get thrown out.

That is Keir Starmer this lunchtime, not quite answering the question about whether he thought about resigning.

But it has been a horrid and torrid week.

It's John.

It's Maitlis.

And the latest part of the drama was a lull because today we had the Cabinet Office Permanent Secretary, Cat Little, giving evidence to Emily Thornberry's committee.

And there were no bombshells.

There were interesting details that emerged that perhaps we didn't know, some of which were kind of quite sympathetic to Ollie Robbins, some of which were very helpful to Keir Starmer.

But it doesn't change the basic thrust of where we are.

And realistically, nothing much changes now.

in the absence of new revelations until next Tuesday, when we hear from Morgan McSweeney, who was Keir Starmer's chief of staff and the person who was instrumental in getting Peter Mandelson to be our ambassador in Washington.

Of course, I don't I don't disagree with that at all.

I'm just thinking in terms of new revelations that have emerged that fundamentally change our understanding.

Well, let's go through a couple.

So she says, well, let's just finish my point.

Yeah.

You know, the fact of the matter is that we've had the Ollie Robbins account of what happened and we've had the Keir Starmer account of what's happened.

And this was sort of designed there to be more supportive, obviously, of Keir Starmer because she's a serving cabinet secretary.