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I've been really excited about this conversation.
And I just want to tell the backstory of how we found each other.
I had said that an initiative of mine this year was to talk to more listeners and people who like weren't exactly, like weren't super online, like super, you know,
or musicians or what have you.
And your lovely fiance who's in the studio with us today reached out and was like, you have to hear this story.
And I'm so glad you did.
Thank you for doing that.
I want to start with just, I want you to tell me about your upbringing.
I think that's important to kind of set the foundation for this story.
Is it a lot of meat?
Is it meat-dense?
What kind of stuff did you grow up with?
Did you grow up hearing things or was it just kind of known?
I want to kind of talk about how that coincided with your queer journey.
Like when you started to kind of figure that out and-
what that was like internally.