Malcolm Gladwell

And so, sure, it'd be nicer if that wasn't the truth, but just because it's not nice doesn't mean it's not true.

Yeah, it's a good point.

I do think, I mean, I was talking to Scott Galloway, who kind of got in trouble for the same philosophy.

And I'm hugely biased, because I agree way too much with that sentiment.

So I need to put that to the side for a second.

But I think that it would be incredibly disingenuous to say that it doesn't help you

to have face-to-face interaction with people and make them like you more, if nothing else, in your career.

So I think sometimes we gotta say the part even though it doesn't make people happy and even though it might not be fair.

And it's much higher to fire people over Zoom calls, as we saw with all the CEOs that did it to big groups of people.

And so, yeah, if you want to protect yourself,

from both just down markets, but then that's not even talking about AI yet.

If your work can be done remote and is relatively repetitive or agentic online, you definitely probably want to get in person and protect yourself.

I mean, it's interesting, you know, because what I like about you is you don't seem to covet controversy at all or confrontation, but you're also okay with it.

You've said, I think before that sometimes you're okay poking the bear because that's the point of being a journalist.

And so I guess I'm curious, one, do you think that haters or feedback online

actually makes arguments stronger or better in some ways because they get beat up?

Or does it just make it loud?

What would you say to someone that really struggles with criticism from other people?

Get over it.

What about someone who's afraid of public backlash or people disliking them?