Malcolm Gladwell

I'm like, we got to stop as a company only yapping at people all the time.

Let's show them what we're doing.

But I was wondering if you could tell that story.

You call him, I think, one of the greatest showmen of all time.

I loved it.

I'll link the article because what I love about it is now we think about modern-day entrepreneurs.

Whether you like them or hate them,

one of the greatest entrepreneurs of all time, Elon Musk, and how he thinks about inventing.

Like, no, no, it'd be really cool if the light shut down off of the rear window because I bet people would take pictures of that.

But if you go back to the infomercials, there's some of the greats like Billy Mays, Bobby Mays, Billy Mays, whatever.

I think Billy Mays was a baseball player.

Anyway, there was a guy that started with B, but he was sort of famous for like the mops and the brooms.

and whatever the detergent is that makes things really clean.

And it seems like they thought about product as really just what could you show.

And that was what you could sell.

And so this high correlation to show and sell I thought was fascinating.

We've talked about all these great entrepreneurs, but I think there is a narrative today that maybe it's harder than ever to become successful.

Do you think that's true?

Why do you think so many people think that then?

That's like, it was easier for our parents.