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Malcolm Gladwell

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Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

I'm sorry to keep harping on this, but this is just bizarre. If I was someone who really didn't like vaccines, and I was writing my massive opus on the subject, I'd pick a really marginal vaccine to go after. Something with dubious benefits, lots of side effects. Something where the VAERS data was really alarming.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

I'm sorry to keep harping on this, but this is just bizarre. If I was someone who really didn't like vaccines, and I was writing my massive opus on the subject, I'd pick a really marginal vaccine to go after. Something with dubious benefits, lots of side effects. Something where the VAERS data was really alarming.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

I don't know, an inexplicable wave of strokes or seizures or something worrisome in people who got the vaccines. But what does Kennedy do? The opposite. He goes after maybe one of the most important public health triumphs of the last hundred years. A vaccine with a package insert that is so immaculate that he literally has to create an objection that is transparently false. It makes no sense.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

I don't know, an inexplicable wave of strokes or seizures or something worrisome in people who got the vaccines. But what does Kennedy do? The opposite. He goes after maybe one of the most important public health triumphs of the last hundred years. A vaccine with a package insert that is so immaculate that he literally has to create an objection that is transparently false. It makes no sense.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

By the way, if you're wondering why we didn't just call up RFK Jr. himself and ask him directly, oh, we tried. Over and over again. Calls, emails, right up to the Department of Health and Human Services.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

By the way, if you're wondering why we didn't just call up RFK Jr. himself and ask him directly, oh, we tried. Over and over again. Calls, emails, right up to the Department of Health and Human Services.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

Total runaround. Then to his lawyer and longtime confidant Aaron Seary, who was all willing to be interviewed until I told him I wanted to talk about the rotavirus vaccine. At which point, he put all kinds of stipulations and restrictions on how our interview would proceed, including the fact that we couldn't tape record it.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

Total runaround. Then to his lawyer and longtime confidant Aaron Seary, who was all willing to be interviewed until I told him I wanted to talk about the rotavirus vaccine. At which point, he put all kinds of stipulations and restrictions on how our interview would proceed, including the fact that we couldn't tape record it.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

And then, when we finally did talk, Seary couldn't come up with any kind of plausible explanation for what his good friend and client was doing either. I thought, is there someone else I could call? Was I ever going to get to the bottom of this? And then I realized, maybe I'm overthinking things. Maybe I just need to keep reading Kennedy's book. And so I did. And sure enough, there it was.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

And then, when we finally did talk, Seary couldn't come up with any kind of plausible explanation for what his good friend and client was doing either. I thought, is there someone else I could call? Was I ever going to get to the bottom of this? And then I realized, maybe I'm overthinking things. Maybe I just need to keep reading Kennedy's book. And so I did. And sure enough, there it was.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

The answer. In Chapter 9, entitled, The White Man's Burden. One of the preeminent figures in modern medicine was the 19th century French microbiologist Louis Pasteur. Pasteur is the pioneer of germ theory. Infectious diseases are the result of foreign microorganisms that invade the body.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

The answer. In Chapter 9, entitled, The White Man's Burden. One of the preeminent figures in modern medicine was the 19th century French microbiologist Louis Pasteur. Pasteur is the pioneer of germ theory. Infectious diseases are the result of foreign microorganisms that invade the body.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

Every time you get a vaccine created specifically against a particular virus, or take an antibiotic optimized to fight a specific strain of bacteria, you are following Pasteur's logic. Germ theory is one of the foundational ideas of modern medicine. And in Chapter 9 of The Real Anthony Fauci, we learn that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doesn't believe in germ theory.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

Every time you get a vaccine created specifically against a particular virus, or take an antibiotic optimized to fight a specific strain of bacteria, you are following Pasteur's logic. Germ theory is one of the foundational ideas of modern medicine. And in Chapter 9 of The Real Anthony Fauci, we learn that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. doesn't believe in germ theory.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

He is, instead, a follower of Pasteur's nemesis, another 19th century French microbiologist named Antoine Béchamp. Bichamp argued that Pasteur had it backwards. You don't get sick because you've been infected by a bug. The bug emerges in response to the fact that your body was already sick. The bug is a symptom, not a cause.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

He is, instead, a follower of Pasteur's nemesis, another 19th century French microbiologist named Antoine Béchamp. Bichamp argued that Pasteur had it backwards. You don't get sick because you've been infected by a bug. The bug emerges in response to the fact that your body was already sick. The bug is a symptom, not a cause.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

What matters is the terrain of the body, an individual's internal state of health. It's really hard to find people who believe in Antoine Béchamp's theories. I spent hours on the internet looking before finally stumbling upon another disciple. Maybe you'll recognize his voice.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

What matters is the terrain of the body, an individual's internal state of health. It's really hard to find people who believe in Antoine Béchamp's theories. I spent hours on the internet looking before finally stumbling upon another disciple. Maybe you'll recognize his voice.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

This is the actor, Woody Harrelson, on Joe Rogan, of course.

Revisionist History
The RFK Jr. Problem

This is the actor, Woody Harrelson, on Joe Rogan, of course.