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Maliki Mardinalli

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
381 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

He's got a laid-back stoner vibe, covered in tattoos, light beard, 33 years old.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

Maliki is the one running the tour.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

He's 29 years old, with dark hair and a cheeky grin.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

He's the Paul McCartney to Sharif's John Lennon, more tightly wound.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

He's the fixer, lining up venues, negotiating with government officials, driving the van, keeping track of permits, schedules, and constantly updating the list of things that could go wrong.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

He worries out loud, cracks jokes as he does it, a kind of nervous humour that makes it clear he's holding the whole operation together.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

He actually thinks they're going to be fine on this tour.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

But there are two stops on the tour he's worried about.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

Hama is a conservative city, stop seven on the tour.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

Aleppo is stop nine, a city divided by different factions.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

Before they could go on the tour, Maliki had to sign what he translates as an obligation with the Ministry of Tourism, a pledge to avoid certain jokes.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

Unlike during the old Assad regime, they're allowed to make fun of the current leaders.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

The pledge is a promise not to use hate speech and to avoid jokes that could rile people up and cause civil unrest, like jokes about religion.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

It's a written commitment tied to the permit.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

If they breach it, the Ministry of Tourism can cancel the show or penalise the group.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

The first four shows go pretty smoothly, playing in mostly liberal towns where they didn't expect problems.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

One gets oversold because the app they use to sell tickets malfunctions, which is a huge pain in the arse.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

But mostly, it's sold-out rooms.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

So far, so good.

This American Life
879: A Christian and a Muslim Walk Into a Bar

Stop 5 on the tour, Latakia.