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Mandeep Singh

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Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

And look, I mean, to my mind, they are going aggressive in terms of adding more capacity than they probably need because they think if they get market share, they get the companies or users to use their product, then they will be able to monetize and probably drive some companies out of, you know, competing with them because of the scale involved here.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

I think right now XAI must be thinking, and they are doing a $20 billion deal with some private financing.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

But look, when OpenAI announces a 10 gigawatt deal, we're talking 500 billion, not 20 billion anymore.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

So the numbers are getting bigger and bigger.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

Well, when I look at Mag7, your Broadcom is not in Mag7.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

It's a $1.6 trillion company.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

You know, OpenAI probably, you know, it's one of the- And they're up 10% because of this.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

No, I mean, look, so right now their gross margins would be negative if you factor in the training costs.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

Inferencing wise, yes, they are making some money.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

But clearly, if you include everything and just to compare it with Google, Google has an annual cost of revenue of around $100 billion.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

That powers all of their apps, you know, Google, YouTube, everything that they run.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

OpenAI's compute costs are probably north of $20 billion right now.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

If they're adding 26 gigawatts more capacity, we're talking compute costs to multiply at least 25-fold.

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

From that perspective, you have to ask yourself, how much incremental revenue do you want to see from OpenAI to justify this potentially $1 trillion in compute infrastructure spend?

Bloomberg Talks
Fastenal CEO Dan Florness Talks Earnings

And that's where Google's infrastructure is so efficient because just, you know, less than five gigawatt of compute gets you to over 400 billion in revenue.

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