Mandy Moore

And we did that whole thing with like the history of like drug use, right?

With you and Jamal.

Right, the montage.

And that whole situation, that montage, right?

I remember that.

In this episode?

That's right.

That's right.

Yes.

It's still season one, right?

So then like when you were asked back, like tell us about, because season five is a big season for you.

Like how did that information get broken to you?

Just start preparing.

What does preparing look like?

And that was like... There's something that you say in the episode where you're talking about the nature of the world right now and how heroin is predominantly in our communities that we're struggling with.

And there's this moment of transparency where you're like, heck, I'm even struggling with it right now.

Yeah.

Right.

So it's, it's sort of like, you know what, I know that I'm not perfect or whatnot, but like, that's why we need to fight to make sure that these things that have allowed them to be so predominant in our community are not present in the same way that they are.

Right.