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Manolis Kellis

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

If they're, you know, sending a mission or if they're reimbursing expenses or you name it, at some point, every, like, you know, you can't function if life is infinitely valuable.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

So when the AI is basically trying to decide whether to, I don't know, dismantle a bomb that will kill an entire city at the sacrifice of two humans, I mean, Spider-Man always saves the lady and saves the world.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

But at some point, Spider-Man will have to choose to let the lady die, because the world has more value.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

And these ethical dilemmas,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

are gonna be there for AI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

Basically, if that monolith is essential to human existence and millions of humans are depending on it and two humans on the ship are trying to sabotage it, you know, where's the alignment?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

So we have a paper recently that, you know, looks at Goodhart's law.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

It basically says every metric that becomes an objective ceases to be a good metric.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

So in our paper, we're basically, actually the paper has a very cute title.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

It's called Death by Round Numbers and Sharp Thresholds.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

And it's basically looking at these discontinuities in biomarkers associated with disease.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

And we're finding that a biomarker that becomes an objective ceases to be a good biomarker.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

that basically like the moment you make a biomarker, a treatment decision, that biomarker used to be informative of risk, but it's now inversely correlated with risk because you use it to sort of induce treatment.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

In a similar way, you can have a single metric without having the ability to revise it, because if that metric becomes a sole objective, it will cease to be a good metric.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

And if an AI is sufficiently intelligent to do all these kinds of things, you should also empower it with the ability to decide that the objective has now shifted.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

And again, when we think about alignment, we should be really thinking about it as let's think of the greater good, not just the human good.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

And yes, of course, human life should be much more valuable than many, many, many, many, many, many things.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

But at some point, you're not gonna sacrifice the whole planet to save one human being.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

So the big thing that we should be saying is what did we do the last six months when we saw that coming?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#373 – Manolis Kellis: Evolution of Human Civilization and Superintelligent AI

And if we were completely inactive in the last six months, what makes us think that we'll be a little better in the next six months?