Manoush Zomorodi

And he's in his late 70s now and says, you know, he doesn't plan on dying, which, OK.

And he told me this crazy story about how he went out to lunch with the Nobel Prize winning economist Daniel Kahneman.

Thinking fast and slow guy.

Exactly.

And Kahneman was, you know, said, I have a plan.

I'm going to take my life when I turn 90.

I'm going to go to Switzerland.

And Kurzweil said, you know, why would you do that?

The tech is moving so fast.

This is don't do it.

And he did.

And Ray Kurzweil, you know, is really I think he's still puzzled by that and flummoxed that people don't understand or don't.

believe that there's going to be such an acceleration in terms of finding medical treatments and different ways of extending our lives and whether he's right or not I don't know but this idea of the two of them coming together and having this conversation over lunch is

And how upset Ray was, like, it just really struck me.

It's two humans trying to figure out, you know, what do we do with our lifespan and with completely two different perspectives on it.

And I just was really touched by the conversation.

Wait, so you're saying they were dropping acid?

Is that what you're talking about?

Or ketamine or whatever else?

Isn't that an attempt to go more internally, though?