Manuel Noriega

But that being said, like everything is sort of just testimonials, right?

At this point, everything is testimonials.

Everyone's just telling me their story.

I don't have these documents yet.

The documents that I unearthed, these classified documents, or I guess now previously classified documents, I didn't know they existed.

So I write this first skeleton draft of the book.

I know that I have to go back to Panama to live with Carlos for like, I'm only going for like two weeks.

So I fly back, Carlos picks me up at the airport.

This time he's a little bit more intense, right?

This time he's like, all right, strap in, like we're in for it for the next two weeks.

So he picks me up, takes me to his apartment and we immediately just start drinking.

Immediately breaks out a bottle of this thing called Seco.

I actually don't really know what it's made with, but it's like a clear, it's kind of like vodka.

It's like a clear liquor.

start drinking at like nine in the morning, drinking all day.

He's bringing all these friends and family over to the house.

He's getting really emotional telling a story.

And then I sort of start to contest him a little bit.

I'm like, you know, you told me this the last time, but now you're telling me this.

So I was like, what is like the truth here?