Manuel Noriega

and using the profits of those sales to fund the Contras in Nicaragua.

The Contras were like, as Carlos described them to me, they were like animals, but they were in theory pro-American government, whereas the Sandinistas were communists, were anti-American government.

Totally.

Yeah.

And it was all just like behind closed doors.

Illegal.

Yeah.

What it essentially was is just the American government like lying to Congress and then also lying to the people.

Right.

It's just it's one giant lie.

Right.

Which, you know, happens all the time.

Right.

I was going to say, but for the greater good.

But the reason why it was such a big deal is that, you know, in the 80s, obviously, like, the media is popping, like, it's everything that happens is being televised, and these pictures started to come out of this plane shutdown.

It's...

Eugene Hasenfus was this like pilot.

I think he got shot down in this aircraft.

I could be wrong about this.

But anyway, it was these photos that were taken in like 1985, 1986 of this plane shot down with Hasenfus that proved to the world that they were supplying the Contras with like weapons and money.