Manuel Noriega

If the US needed their trash taken out in Latin America, they called Noriega, right?

If they had problems with Fidel Castro, they called Noriega to figure it out.

You know, he did them a lot of favors.

But the first sign of sort of things going to shit were in 1976, 1977, when H.W.

Bush was director of the CIA, and those two, like, really butted heads, like...

HW hated Noriega and Noriega hated him.

And that was when things like really started to go to shit.

So I'm learning all this right after I interview Carlos for the first time in the beach house.

And I know I'm going back to Panama again.

And this time I'm going to be living with Carlos in his apartment in the city.

I can tell you what.

So Noriega had like a massive ego, right?

A huge... Right.

Of course, you know?

Massive ego and... Humble people don't get there.

No, hell no.

Yeah, dude, no.

And he was the chief of intelligence of...

Panama at the time, there was another dictator before Noriega called Omar Torrijos.

He was like a socialist dictator.