Marc Andreessen

The point was Trump is a counter-elite who's able to represent the people better. That's the whole basis of his movement. And anyways, that's the general pattern. And I just think you see that everywhere in our society. And then look, you're an example of this with what's happening in the media. Everything I just described is exactly what's happened in the media.

The point was Trump is a counter-elite who's able to represent the people better. That's the whole basis of his movement. And anyways, that's the general pattern. And I just think you see that everywhere in our society. And then look, you're an example of this with what's happening in the media. Everything I just described is exactly what's happened in the media.

You had elite media for 50 years, and it was network news and cable news and newspapers and these prestige magazines. And now you've got the counter elite and the counter elite is you and Rogan and dot, dot, dot on and on. By the way, you look at the numbers and it's very clear where the people are going.

You had elite media for 50 years, and it was network news and cable news and newspapers and these prestige magazines. And now you've got the counter elite and the counter elite is you and Rogan and dot, dot, dot on and on. By the way, you look at the numbers and it's very clear where the people are going.

The people, the viewers, the masses, the readers are fleeing the old and they're going to the new. The incumbent elites are absolutely furious about it. They're furiously writing all these hit pieces about how you guys are all a bunch of white supremacists and the whole thing is horrible. Right. And it's like, yeah, it's the way of the world. And so we're in the middle of this.

The people, the viewers, the masses, the readers are fleeing the old and they're going to the new. The incumbent elites are absolutely furious about it. They're furiously writing all these hit pieces about how you guys are all a bunch of white supremacists and the whole thing is horrible. Right. And it's like, yeah, it's the way of the world. And so we're in the middle of this.

I don't even know if it's just transitions the right term. It's a pitch battle basically between old elites and new elites.

I don't even know if it's just transitions the right term. It's a pitch battle basically between old elites and new elites.

There's really two theories. There's the theory that those approval ratings are wrong, and there's the theory that those approval ratings are right. And by wrong, I mean they're being measured correctly, but the people are wrong. People are giving the wrong answer. And so if you're running CNN or if you're running Harvard or if you're running whatever,

There's really two theories. There's the theory that those approval ratings are wrong, and there's the theory that those approval ratings are right. And by wrong, I mean they're being measured correctly, but the people are wrong. People are giving the wrong answer. And so if you're running CNN or if you're running Harvard or if you're running whatever,

And your approval rating is coming in at 11%. And by the way, for your listeners, Gallup for 50 years has been doing this incredible survey panel, which is trust in institutions. And you can just Google 2024 Gallup trust institutions, and you get these spectacular charts.

And your approval rating is coming in at 11%. And by the way, for your listeners, Gallup for 50 years has been doing this incredible survey panel, which is trust in institutions. And you can just Google 2024 Gallup trust institutions, and you get these spectacular charts.

And what you find is basically trust institutions basically peaked in the late 60s, early 70s, and has been falling off a cliff ever since. And so this phenomenon, by the way, predates the internet. interestingly. It gets blamed a lot on the internet, but it predates the internet. So it's something that basically started developing in the 70s and has been accelerating since.

And what you find is basically trust institutions basically peaked in the late 60s, early 70s, and has been falling off a cliff ever since. And so this phenomenon, by the way, predates the internet. interestingly. It gets blamed a lot on the internet, but it predates the internet. So it's something that basically started developing in the 70s and has been accelerating since.

And by the way, those ratings have fallen off a cliff dramatically since 2020. They slide like this, and then after 2020, they just plummet. TV network news, you know the number, it's like tiny, it's like single digit percentage. People are just completely done with it. They don't believe what's on it anymore at all. By the way, also viewership is collapsing in the same way. So

And by the way, those ratings have fallen off a cliff dramatically since 2020. They slide like this, and then after 2020, they just plummet. TV network news, you know the number, it's like tiny, it's like single digit percentage. People are just completely done with it. They don't believe what's on it anymore at all. By the way, also viewership is collapsing in the same way. So

One theory, if you're running NBC News or if you're running CNN, Harvard, your theory is, oh, the people are wrong. The people have been misinformed. They've been lied to. They've been fed misinformation. This is why the whole misinformation thing became such a big meme. There's a Marxist concept called false consciousness, which basically is the people are incorrect.

One theory, if you're running NBC News or if you're running CNN, Harvard, your theory is, oh, the people are wrong. The people have been misinformed. They've been lied to. They've been fed misinformation. This is why the whole misinformation thing became such a big meme. There's a Marxist concept called false consciousness, which basically is the people are incorrect.

The people have been lied to by malicious actors, by populists and demagogues. And it's just a matter of time until we can explain to the people that they've been lied to and they're going to come around and they're going to believe us again. So that's one theory. The other theory is the elites have become rotten. They have become rotten and dysfunctional and corrupt, and they're not delivering.

The people have been lied to by malicious actors, by populists and demagogues. And it's just a matter of time until we can explain to the people that they've been lied to and they're going to come around and they're going to believe us again. So that's one theory. The other theory is the elites have become rotten. They have become rotten and dysfunctional and corrupt, and they're not delivering.