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Marc Lynch

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304 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

You cannot maintain that posture.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Number two, I would want my government to intervene to prevent the inequality and injustice and violation of international law.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And in fact, when

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

I write about it, and when we even wrote the book, The One-State Reality, when we edited it and had the project, our aim was actually to address our public discourse just as much, meaning as Americans, we know that we play a role in what's happening there.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And so we weren't really trying, I am not personally, when I'm writing, I'm not trying to tell the Israelis and the Palestinians, you should have two states or one state.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

But what I do insist on, at least from my moral point of view, or as an American, as somebody who cares in international law, that we, as the United States, not basically trying to tell them what to do, but to reject anything

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

that violates our basic norms, a set of basic norms, what we used to call our values, and international law.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

But from the Israeli point of view, if you're looking at it down the road and you're seeing the trends are going as you have described, not just the Democrats, but also Republicans, really, there's even the interpretation among evangelicals.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

It's changing.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Look at the religious discourse.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

It's changing about the, in some circles, particularly among Catholics, the attack on

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

the very theology that is espoused by some evangelicals that embraces Israel.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

There's a huge explosion of debates right now on this issue.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

So that's why I think this moment is ultra dangerous.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Because if you're sitting in Netanyahu's chair,

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

and you are looking at this as an existential war based on his own objectives in the region, whether what's happening in Iran, what's happening in Lebanon, but also the fight in America for America's soul, for what we stand for, then existential war, everything goes.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

This is his moment.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

He sees Trump as the last chance.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

He sees the evangelical support

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

as the last block of support, and he's gonna go all out.