Marc Maron

There's no guarantee of anything, listeners, anything.

No one even knows what these podcasts are.

But I needed to put myself out there.

And the extreme behavior was taking that chance.

The rash behavior was really just believing in it.

So I think that framing desperation in that way, it becomes proactive.

The other word I was thinking about was urgency.

I live in an urgent state.

I think that when you're self-employed and you do a lot of things.

You're always chasing something.

And if you're not organized, you have to do something right when it comes into your head or you might not do it.

But the definition of urgency is importance requiring swift action and also an earnest and persistent quality insistence.

I am, at the core, an urgent person.

Everything happens urgently.

When I talk, all of what I put out into the world requires me talking, and it's always urgent.

It's very rarely passive.

So when you mix this sort of desperate extreme action with urgency, that is a large component of why I connect, I think.

And it doesn't go away.

The urgency is annoying because some things can wait, but I'm not great at the waiting.

And the great thing about doing this podcast and talking to you is that in my urgency, no matter where I am in my heart and mind, I have to put it out there for myself and then for you.