Marc Maron

You know, that's what I do.

That was the big breakthrough that once I hit bottom, not with drugs and alcohol, that was before the podcast.

But once I hit bottom with life and with career, that I found this mic and I found this medium and,

And I found the connection.

And I found a place where I could fully express my thoughts and feelings.

And that was a big deal.

And it remains a big deal to this conversation I'm having with you right now.

But it was always about these rooms.

It was always about this studio.

It was always about, you know, in the beginning, it was about the old garage.

The old garage was a magical place, a truly magical place that I was ready to let go when I let it go.

But that place, when I first got into that space, and it was actually a functioning garage just filled with crap, broken furniture and this and that, lamps.

I just stuck a table in it.

I put a floor down.

I stuck a table in it and I had my MacBook and I had these big mics.

And I sat there and did this with people coming in.

And as it began to sort of take shape and become a thing, you know, I moved all of my stuff from storage, all of my books, all of my tchotchkes, all of my life in pictures, photographs, pieces of art, little knickknacks.

And I made it an environment that was not just cozy, but it was literally a representation of my entire life through bits and pieces of things that were important to me.

Clutter, but informed clutter.

It was like you were walking into my being.